Flopsey, Mopsey and Cottontail

[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by Almost Always Right
"OTOH if the defender leans back & hits the floor with no or MINIMAL CONTACT then we have a flop. How we deal with that is another discussion but I have never T'ed a player for flopping."
This is your quote to BITS after you asked me how is that so.
So you agree with me? You can have contact(however minimal) and still have a flop.
The other points you made are absolutely correct.
AAR

I don't think I'm agreeing with you, but that's why I asked to begin with.

My view is a player leaning/falling backwards (a flop) doesn't remove the posibility of the PC. If there's no contact or minimal contact then I don't have a PC, flop or not.

It seemed to me that you were saying a player leaning/falling backwards (a flop) completely removes the possibility of a PC. IOW if the defensive player leans back he could get squished into a bloody stain under the basket but you're not gonna give him the PC.