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I observed this in a game last night. A shooting foul is called as the horn goes off ending the third quarter. A technical foul is also called on the same team. The quarter ends with four foul shots, all by the same team. The fourth quarter then begins with the officials using the AP arrow. I would have thought that the team shooting the technical fouls would have retained possession at the beginning of the fourth quarter. Appreciate comments.
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If the "T" was assessed after the third quarter ended, then the fourth quarter would begin with a throw-in for that "T", not an AP. |
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As I read 5:6, and as I observed the game, the common foul free throws should have been a part of the third quarter. The horn had sounded ending the quarter during the try. So then the fourth quarter should have begun with two foul shots for the T, plus possession of the ball because of the T, and not because of the AP Arrow. Right?
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Case book on 5:6 Comment B says, "If a technical foul occurs after the ball has become dead to end the quarter,(which is what happened) the next quarter is started by administering free throws." That to me makes it sound like common foul shots in the 3rd quarter, as it happened in the game, and T free throws beginning in the fourth quarter.
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If free throws are being shot, then the quarter hasn't ended yet. Think about it this way: A1 throws up a desperation 45 footer to end the 3rd qtr. While airborne, she is crushed by B1, resulting in a 3-shot foul. As the ball is halfway to the basket, the horn sounds. You shoot the freethrows before the quarter is considered ended because the foul happened while stll in a live-ball situation in the quarter. Further that...when would you start the minute intermission period in between the 3rd and 4th quarter? While A1 is shooting the FTs? No, but rather once she is completed with them, because the 3rd quarter is still the active quarter. If a technical foul would occur before those FTs are finished, they are considered part of the 3rd Qtr. The key in your case is that after the ball has become dead to end the quarter. Recall that FTs are live ball situations, thus the ball has not yet become dead to end the quarter.
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I appreciate all the input going on here. I understand that the foul shots are part of the 3rd quarter and so forth. For clarification, I think 5:6.3b sums it up best, in that the quarter ends when the free throws and all related activity have been completed. No penalty or part of a penalty carries over from one quarter or extra period to the next. Case in point, shoot the free throws for the T, and then start 4th qtr. with arrow. Thanks again.
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