Had a game Monday night where the fouls were something like 7 to 1. Not that I care, I only remember because the coach said something to me about it. He said: "Come on ref, the fouls are 7 to 1." So I pulled the line "Sorry coach, I don't count them I call them." He said: "I never said you did, I'm counting them." Sooo you great come back people out there, what would you have said back?

"Let me know when it gets to 10 so I know we're shooting two."

If the complaining coach is ahead in the score, you can tell him you'll even up the fouls but it means you have to even up the score, too.

If the complaining coach is behind in the score, just tell him they'll never win if they keep fouling so much.

I've heard partners say something like, "you're right coach and it's going to be 10 to 1 here in a minute if your team keeps fouling."

As much as I'd sometimes like to be witty, I just say something like, "coach, we're aware of that too.... It'd be easier on us if the fouls were 5 to 5 but it just doesn't work out that way sometimes."

Z

"Make sure you count the one I am going to give you as 2!"

He said: "I never said you did, I'm counting them."

..."and you're doing a fine job coach, thanks for the help."

My favorite line in this situation is, "And that means WHAT?"

The coach is making a personal attack when they start this nonsense. They are either accusing you of complete incompetence or cheating, and I don't find either funny or deserving of a snappy comeback.

The smart ones get that they have crossed the line and recognize that this was a warning, the others don't and get whacked.

Maybe you didn't see the fine print on the screen when we joke about the smart 1 liners:

"Performed by a professional on a closed track. Do not try this at home."

Now you know why it's there. ;)

BTW, I have a choice of 2 answers, depending on how p1ssy I'm feeling at the time:

1. "I hear ya coach."
2. "That's not my issue coach, it's a coaching issue."

Either is almost always met by silence.

How is stating a fact the same as accusing you of cheating?

Because this "fact" is just saying, "If you were doing your job well, or fairly, the foul count would not be 7-1."

It also falls under 10-4-1-B attempting to influence an official's decision.

If it has standing or gesturing along with the statement add article E.

If it is loud enough so the crowd picks it up, throw in article F.

Maybe in your universe.

In mine it is just a frustrated coach saying "Fouls are 7-1 against me".

What if he just said "Score is 23-12 against me".

Or "My point guard couldn't dribble if he had a mouth full of novacaine."

You gonna T him up?

You have got to be kidding?

That is the biggest apple to orange comparison in the history of this forum. :rolleyes:

No, because he doesn't expect me to score points for him or dribble the ball for his point guard. But when the fouls are 7-1, he's expecting me to start calling fouls on the other team to even it up.

Dan, you can't honestly tell me that when a coach says this to you, he's not complaining that you're calling the game unfairly? C'mon, you know better than that. He is NOT saying, "Gosh darnit, I wish my kids would quit fouling." He's saying, "You guys aren't calling it both ways!"

IMHO, that is far from a personal attack. It's just a coach doing what coaches do... being an advocate for their team. They think they see thier kids being fouled and we aren't calling it and/or they see fouls being called on their kids that they don't think were fouls. They are seeing the game through the biased glasses that all coaches wear. You can address the comments, but if you think that's a personal attack, you're going to be setting a record for "whacks."

Z

A coach that throws a clipboard and screams, "Call that F'ing foul!" is being an advocate for his team too. It does not mean it's not personal or appropriate.;)

Also where did I say it was a automatic whack? I said they get the "WHAT" warning and if they keep it up they get whacked?