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Old Sat Feb 24, 2001, 12:28pm
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At our high school boys game last night one of the players was called for a backboard slap on a block attempt, which under this years rules if not intentional is no call, but the ref T-ed him up. Later in the game he was called again for hanging on the rim on a missed dunk, eariler a player had done the same and no call, both times defenders were under them. But now in th wiaa if you get two t's you miss the next game also, which is the start of our playoffs. What would you have done?
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Old Sat Feb 24, 2001, 02:57pm
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Pass on both.
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Old Sat Feb 24, 2001, 05:14pm
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Talking Too little details to make a fair assessment....

AND it definitely appears that there is a bias in perspective.... Can't over-rule....

This kangaroo court is now adjourned!
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Old Sat Feb 24, 2001, 05:51pm
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I am not trying to be funny guys, but you were not there. How do you know that the ball was not clearly gone and the defender was not lazy and slapped the backboard. Now, it might have been a real block attempt, but it might have been a deliberate attempt to shake the backboard. Just because the person say it one way, does not mean that the official did not see it another way and was right. I really do not know, I was not there. And the same goes for the grabbing on the rim too.
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Old Sat Feb 24, 2001, 06:15pm
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Re: williebfree and bsilliman

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I am not trying to be funny guys, but you were not there. How do you know that the ball was not clearly gone and the defender was not lazy and slapped the backboard. Now, it might have been a real block attempt, but it might have been a deliberate attempt to shake the backboard. Just because the person say it one way, does not mean that the official did not see it another way and was right. I really do not know, I was not there. And the same goes for the grabbing on the rim too.
Rut,

I believe williebfree was trying to say the same thing that you did.

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Old Sat Feb 24, 2001, 07:30pm
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RE: JRutledge

I believe we are in agreement... as I said... Too little details to make a call, with the minimal input here.

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Old Mon Feb 26, 2001, 04:16pm
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So many different ways to view both calls...however, I would like to talk about the first one. The WIAA did make a rule clarification about slapping the backboard and boy was it a hot topic at our association meeting.

10-3-6 -- Clarified illegal contact on the backboard by stating that a player shall not: a. place a hand on the backboard or ring to gain an advantage. b. While a try or tap is in flight or is touching the backboard or is in the basket or in the cylinder above the basket, intentionally slap or strike the backboard or cause the ring to vibrate.

We understand that if the player is making a legitimate attempt on blocking the shot and their hand slaps the backboard, this is allowable.
The discussion came on what to call when the blocker slaps the backboard in a legitimate attempt and the ball is on the rim and then due to the slap,
ball does not go in.

Do we play on?

In reading the rule and it's clarification, some officials were under the impression that regardless of where the ball is (rim, in the cylinder), if player made a legitimate attempt to block the shot, play on.

Other officials, stating that the defense now gains has an advantage by slapping the backboard and causing the ball to not go in, would still call basket interference. They would not penalize the slap, but rather the advantage the defender gained by slapping the backboard.

Any takers????
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Old Mon Feb 26, 2001, 07:25pm
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By rule--you cannot call basket interference because the player did not touch the ball while it was in the cylinder or the basket while the ball was on the rim.
I believe that the official can tell whether or not there was a legitimate attempt at a block, that is what we get paid for, and if there was one then no penalty.

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Old Tue Feb 27, 2001, 01:33am
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Other officials, stating that the defense now gains has an advantage by slapping the backboard and causing the ball to not go in, would still call basket interference. They would not penalize the slap, but rather the advantage the defender gained by slapping the backboard.

Any takers????
Look up the definition of basket interference and ask those "other officials" were it says it's BI to slap the backboard.
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