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Old Mon Feb 07, 2005, 03:16pm
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Tony,

Do you call 3 seconds to the letter?

Do you give a T for a coach questioning your integrity by talking about the foul count?

I realize what the rulebook says and what you can do. This discussion for me is not about whether this is something that needs to be addressed or even T'd. What I was asking was why this one word is more important than any other word. I do not read in the rulebook or casebook a play that specifically distinguishes one word over another to the point they have to be ejected. Many of these discussions are about situation that are outside of the specifics of the rulebook and why we are having this discussion in the first place. Of course an official has the right to take action before they leave the court. I just do not consider all situations safe or reasonable to handle that way. The NF is not going to take you to the hospital when someone throws something at you or you get jumped because you have to go back into a hostile situation and you now get hurt.

This is all based on opinion and where you are at when you are doing the game. I know if I work in some places I would not go out to the court at all and other places it might not be much of a concern. It for me all depends on the environment you find yourself in.

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Old Mon Feb 07, 2005, 03:17pm
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It is not about the word it is what is said
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Old Mon Feb 07, 2005, 03:27pm
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Wink Really simple, you just have to think about it.

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It is not about the word it is what is said
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If someone does not use a profane word, they can be even more offensive if they imply something or make a personal comment. Words that are offensive are not just based on what Carlin used in his monologue. I am sure you can think of many things something can say to someone and not curse one time. If you have not, maybe you are just lucky.

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Old Mon Feb 07, 2005, 04:33pm
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We're not talking about 3 seconds, we're not talking about a FT violation, or any other issue.

We aren't talking about a coach asking about a call, complaining about a call or commenting about the foul count.

We're discussing a coach berating officials in an unsporting manner by using threats, intimidation, profanity and whatever else he chooses to use. The entire point of my previous post is that IT ISN'T ABOUT THAT ONE WORD! That just happens to be the word that was used in the original situation. Look at my examples! You'll notice that only one of them includes your favorite word.

So stop trying to comparethis situation to issues that have nothing to do with this. You make your self appear stupid when you do.
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Old Mon Feb 07, 2005, 05:20pm
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We're not talking about 3 seconds, we're not talking about a FT violation, or any other issue.

We aren't talking about a coach asking about a call, complaining about a call or commenting about the foul count.
You are right we are not talking about 3 second. But when you use the rulebook as the end all be all decision making tool and you do not consider other factors, you are not be honest with all of us here. I can show you how to call 3 seconds in the rulebook and casebook but the reality is different when I am out there on the court. That is all I am saying.


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We're discussing a coach berating officials in an unsporting manner by using threats, intimidation, profanity and whatever else he chooses to use. The entire point of my previous post is that IT ISN'T ABOUT THAT ONE WORD! That just happens to be the word that was used in the original situation. Look at my examples! You'll notice that only one of them includes your favorite word.

So stop trying to comparethis situation to issues that have nothing to do with this. You make your self appear stupid when you do.
OK, then you go to the table and get your @ss kicked or threatened and I will be in the locker room talking about what I am going to put in my report. I am not going to stay on the court so this coach can berate me some more and I have to put something in the book (which is semantics if you ask me). This comes down to what your state policy is. I will write a report and the same result will take place. I do not need the scorebook to confirm what I have done. That is not apart of our process. I will let the state handle it from there.

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