Two Questions - 1) Punching the basketball and 2) Jumping off a teammate - Page 2

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. · #16 (**permalink**) Thu Feb 03, 2005, 10:22pm

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on the dunk, 10.3.7.e and it's a T not a violation.

"Climbing on or lifting a teammate to secure greater height."

We have an esteemed member of this board (coughmtdsrcough) who called not one, not two, but three(3) T's on a play similar to this. The player jumped off his teammates back and then dunked the ball. The call was:
1) A "T" on the player on the floor for lifting a teammate.
2) A "T" on the other player at the same time for climbing on him
3) Another "T" on the player who jumped off his teammate for subsequently dunking a dead ball under R10-3-4. Note that this was also this player's second "T" on this sequence so that an automatic ejection goes with it.

FYI- don't try this at home!

Wow. I can see justifying 1 and 2...but 3 is a real stretch. Wow...you gotta have cajones of steel...

It happened in an off-season AAU game, if I remember the story right. Mark said that he made the call that way because he was more pissed off at the circumstances surrounding it than anything else.

Brings up kind of an interesting point though. Is the right call one "T" or two? Personally, I'd probably always just call one on the shooter in this case, and stay right away from the second "T" and most definitely the dead ball dunk call. The dunk is part of the over all play and the time frame is just too short. Opinions?

"Esteemed"???

MTD, Sr.

bigwes68 · #17 (**permalink**) Fri Feb 04, 2005, 10:38pm

In intramurals where I officiate, dunking is a T and automatic ejection to begin with. So I could definitely see giving two T's in this situation.

And then when they come complain about getting two, I'll give them another one and call the game (three T's on a team, game over under our intramural rules).

As for the punching the ball -- I did see this happen in a game the other night (I wasn't officiating) and no call. Is it just a violation or what?

Forksref · #18 (**permalink**) Fri Feb 04, 2005, 10:57pm

Agree with Jurassic, one T is enough. I'd award some style points for the dunk, though. Heck, the Russian judge gave him a 7.5!