General Coach Question

[mick]

Originally posted by Snaqwells
The coach will know I've seen the play when my whistle blows or doesn't blow.

Yes !
Foul tips do not belong on the hardwood.
mick

[TimTaylor]

Welcome to the forum Kenny!

It takes a while, but eventually every official realizes that the "dreaded T" is just another type of foul, predicated primarily by either administrative or conduct issues. Use preventive officiating techniques to try to minimize the potential, but don't be afraid to call it when the conditions warrant.

I also officiate both volleyball and basketball. If during a match a volleyball coach had directed the same remark towards you, what would your response have been? For me, it would be an instant red card. Although they would like to think otherwise, the allowable conduct for basketball coaches isn't any different than for other sports. Try to catch it early with a warning, but if it continues, penalize.

On the other incident with the "F-bomb", was it simply said out of frustration, or directed specifically at you? In the first case, it's definitely a T, but if directed specifically at the official I'd strongly consider making it a flagrant T & sending him packing. Just my $0.02

[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by Gozer
Anyhow, I did not give him his earned T because it would have hurt the players and not the coach, and afterall that is who we are out there for.

Bullsh1t.

He earned not 1 but 2 T's. Send him on his way. If there's no assistant coach the game is over, he loses 2-0.

[Gozer]

Good point if it was Volleyball, if the coach walked onto the court they would "see the rainbow of colors!" if not prolly a Red. Anyhow, read an article on the board about differences between bball and volleyball, very helpful. I just havent developed my BBall Spine yet but I am sure it will come.

I guess I shouldnt be to proud of this, but I did give the coach the "Stop Sign" earlier in the game. I guess it should have been an Auto-T on anything past that.

Rgarding the "Chomp" I will discontinue it's use also.

Funny I didnt pick up on the "Foul Tip" and "Diamond", I am going to do Softball and Baseball for the first time this year also.

Anyway, Thanks for all your input has really been helpful, I'm sure I will have more questions,

Take Care,

Kenny

[Back In The Saddle]

When giving a T, you want to ask yourself, "Will this T make the game better?" If the answer is yes, then give it. One of the ways in which T'ing the coach can make the game better is that he may stop focusing on the officiating and go back to coaching his team. That is a very desirable outcome. If that doesn't work, then perhaps his absence will help the team. You'll find a lot of stories here about how that has been the case.

The one time I tossed a coach, the team rallied and decided to play ball instead of *****ing and moaning. Guess what, they started to close the gap. If I had thrown the coach earlier, they might have come back and won the game. That, obviously, is not the reason for doing it, just an illustration of how taking care of business actually helped the team rather than hurting it.

[Dudly]

I hate the "tip" signal. What does that do? If it is a tip, block, tap, slap, etc and all ball then so what? If it is a foul then the whistle stops the play.
I learned that the stupid way by signalling the "tip" at the same time my partner had the foul. He was right, I was wrong.

As for the coach...calmly give him a T. My boys coach decided to belittle the official by telling his team to "just take the ball, he ain't going to call anything" He did this during a timeout and loud enough for the entire gym to here. This is a city league and 11 yr old boys playing. The officials were some of the high school jv players.

Had a talk with the coach afterwards about professionalism and setting a good example for the boys, then had a talk with my son about how a coach should conduct himself.

My point here is to stop the coach now.

my 37 cents

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally posted by Back In The Saddle
When giving a T, you want to ask yourself, "Will this T make the game better?"

Another criteria that I personally use is "Will this T make me feel better?"

[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee

Another criteria that I personally use is "Will this T make me feel better?"

This mean I have to call you the next time I fell the urge to T?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally posted by Dan_ref

This mean I have to call you the next time I feel the urge to T?

Yes.

[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee

Yes.

OK, I got you on speed dial now....

1-800-EAT-SH!T

[ref18]

Originally posted by Gozer
I just havent developed my BBall Spine yet but I am sure it will come.

Don't worry, with time it'll come. You just need to discover your limits.

I remember in my first year reffing, I was too scared to talk to coaches let alone T them up. But now...

[RookieDude]

Originally posted by ref18

Don't worry, with time it'll come. You just need to discover your limits.

I remember in my first year reffing, I was too scared to talk to coaches let alone T them up. But now...

Yeah...and just think kid...when you go through puberty you'll really be a bad ***!

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally posted by RookieDude

Yeah...and just think kid...when you go through puberty you'll really be a bad ***!

Helluva idea. Instead of puking on a coach's shoes, you can pop a zit on 'em instead. Another great game management tool brought to you by ref18.

[RookieDude]

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee

Helluva idea. Instead of puking on a coach's shoes, you can pop a zit on 'em instead. Another great game management tool brought to you by ref18.

LMAO!

[ref18]