If by rule there can be no walk during a dribble, then is a carry (palming, etc) a double dribble? The rule says that a dribble ends when it is in the palm of the hand, which is what made me think the next dribble violated the double dribble.

A carry is just a carry. It has its own mechanic and everything.

Double Dribble in the following.

When the ball is at rest in the hand the first dribble ends when it leaves the hand and connects with the floor again it is a double dribble.

Traveling in the following.

When the ball comes to rest in the hand and the player lifts and replaces his/her pivot foot. (for it to be traveling the previous has to be done before the ball leaves the hand and connects with the floor)

Carry still has a signal, but they removed the violation a couple of years ago.

So you still use the "carry" mechanic, even though the violation is technically a double dribble?

Nope, use the double dribble.

If you are saying this is a Violation, this is incorrect.

Yes I do. It's mechanic #20 in the 2004/2005 NFHS Official's Signal Chart.

http://www.nfhs.org/staticcontent/pd...KB_Signals.pdf

Any particular reason why you don't use this mechanic?

It could be either double dribble or traveling
 

When the ball comes to rest in the palm of the hand, the dribble has ended. What happens next determines if it is a travel or double dribble. I see this most often when the player is running up the court. If the ball comes to rest in his hand he will probable take two steps before the ball is returned to the floor. Tweet! Travel.

If he is dribbling while standing still and the ball comes to rest in his hand and he dribbles again. Tweet! Double Dribble.

That's my .02.

I do use it, and was asked why I wasn't calling it a double dribble, using the d-d mechanic. So, I looked for the violation, and couldn't find it listed as a violation called carry. But, accding to my more experienced parter, it was double dribble because the legal dribble ended when the ball came into contact with the palm of the hand underneath it, and then putting it back down was a double dribble.

There were seperate calls for a carry/palming and double/illegal dribble.

They combined the two into one signal the double/illegal dribble and called it an illegal dribble a few years ago.

They then changed it back.

The violation for both is for an illegal dribble. If it is one hand and a crossover-type move use the carry/palming signal. If it is two hands or an obvious end of a dribble use the illegal dribble signal.

Whew...I was just flipping through my book trying to find anything in the Definitions section or Violations section referring to the Carry or Palming. Nothing there. Weird that you wouldn't have some kind of text in the rule book to go along with a mechanic.

Thanks for the explanation. That is what I will do.

Technically, an illegal dribble!

If the player takes a step when palming the ball - it is a travel. If they don't and simply stop and then restart their dribble - it is a double dribble.

woops - should have read the other answers before posting this. BTW the carry mechanic has been removed from FIBA (in case you care)