#12 vs #12

[zebraman]

I'd do everything I could to make sure both kids got to play. "Coach, you must have an old jersey somewhere huh?"

If not, then I'd allow the use of tape. Yeah, tape comes off once in a while, but we can put it back on. It's a JV game and I'm going to figure out some way to allow both kids to play without having two identical numbers.

Z

[Junker]

I have used tape in some circumstances, but also had games where there were two players with the same number. At the lower levels, you're going to get this. Using common sense (not by the book correct) I'd get both books and look at the foul count quickly. Then I'd explain the discrepancy to the V coach and ask what he thinks. If he doesn't have a problem with changing the "official" count, we change it to what seems to be correct, if not, I say go with the official scorebook. Coach might not like it, but that's what we have to work with. If he wants to be mad, he can vent to the AD that they need more uniforms or about the table not keeping them straight.

[Ref Daddy]

ART. 2 . . . After the 10-minute time limit specified in Article 1, a team is charged with a maximum of one technical foul regardless of how many infractions of the following are committed (see 10-1-2 Penalty):

a. Changing a designated starter, unless necessitated by illness, injury, illegal equipment or apparel, etc., or to attempt a technical-foul free throw.
b. Adding a name to the team member list.
c. Requiring the scorer to change a team member's or player's number in the scorebook.
d. Requiring a player to change to the number in the scorebook.
e. Having identical numbers on team members and/or players.

[cmathews]

Refdaddy,
No one is disputing that it is legal or not to have 2 players with the same number. The question is, what to do to allow both kids to play at a lower level. Some people won't allow it at the JV level some will...

[ChrisSportsFan]

Please don't misunderstand me, I want both kids to play. Tape/ different jersey/ whatever, especially at the below V level. At the V level, I believe the standards and expectations are higher and we need to apply uniform rules the closest to the book as we can.

[totalnewbie]

How about this solution:

R: "coach, you cant have 2 number 12s"
C: "well, I dont have an extra jersey."
R: "we can tape over one of the numbers and he can play, but you get a T for an illegal uni. Either that or you dont play him. Your choice."

And is that a better solution depending on the level of play? Is it unreasonable at the varsity or JV level to expect teams to have their unis right? A middle school game? Freshman game? Do you guys have a rule of thumb on when you would call this? (again, I am not presuming to know, I am just asking).

Or in the collective minds of the board is this akin to a "roster in the book by 10 minutes" thing that you would just let slide? And if we let is slide all the time, why is it a rule?

is there a point where you would call an illegal uni?

I remember playing (it was a men's league some years ago) and we had two guys with the same number. Ref said just what I quoted above: "put tape on and take a T or he doesnt play." And frankly I thought that was the right solution. We are adults. We didnt have our gear in order. The penalty is what the ref said.

Clark

[Edited by totalnewbie on Feb 1st, 2005 at 04:36 PM]

[cmathews]

If I suggest that they tape it, I am not going to T them up for it....anything below the V level I will let slide with the tape thing. The reason being, if the visitors are moving a kid up from the Frosh squad, and one down from the V they probably didn't bring extra jerseys for the situation....make em legal and let em play...

[totalnewbie]

So V is the cutoff for you. Makes sense to me.

Has anyone ever done this and gotten grief from the opposing coach and if so how did you address it?

[cmathews]

any coach that gives you grief about this below the JV level is wound toooooo tight...when it has come up, I usually just say "hey coach, they have 2 12's they are going to tape one up and make it a 1 or 2" and the usual response is a dumfounded look like why are you telling me then an ok sounds fine with me....

[Mark Dexter]

"Sorry, coach - you took the risk, that's five fouls on the #12 who's out on the court right now."

And, no, I don't give a damn about player names.

[bigzilla]

Use tape to turn the 1 into a 0, then you have 02, and if they already have a 2, then this is...oh never mind.

[w_sohl]

Originally posted by JRutledge

That happens a lot here (and you should know that man!!! ).

Peace

Just ruffling some feathers, you should know all about that...