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Old Mon Jan 31, 2005, 11:23pm
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Dont let some jerk get to you, just let it go, even if it is hard. Go to the game, dont be bias, and call the game as nothing has happened.

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Okay, last piece of advice.

Don't use phrases like, "Sit down and stop shouting," or "I don't want to hear another word," when handling coaches.

Stick to, "Coach I need you in the box," or "I've heard enough coach." The enough is best used with the stop sign, so everyone sees that you have calmly dealt with the situation.
Great advice from a newbie and a vet!!

This is how it's supposed to work!
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Old Mon Jan 31, 2005, 11:42pm
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Originally posted by brandan89
Dont let some jerk get to you, just let it go, even if it is hard. Go to the game, dont be bias, and call the game as nothing has happened.

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Originally posted by blindzebra
Okay, last piece of advice.

Don't use phrases like, "Sit down and stop shouting," or "I don't want to hear another word," when handling coaches.

Stick to, "Coach I need you in the box," or "I've heard enough coach." The enough is best used with the stop sign, so everyone sees that you have calmly dealt with the situation.
Great advice from a newbie and a vet!!

This is how it's supposed to work!
I'm just glad grizzled was not part of your post.
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Old Tue Feb 01, 2005, 12:55am
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Okay, last piece of advice.

Don't use phrases like, "Sit down and stop shouting," or "I don't want to hear another word," when handling coaches.

Stick to, "Coach I need you in the box," or "I've heard enough coach." The enough is best used with the stop sign, so everyone sees that you have calmly dealt with the situation.
I actually said "Coach, I understand why your upset, but that's enough." I read this forum enough to know not to say "I don't want to hear another word." I'm not even sure what I was thinking when I typed that.

And you can keep the advice coming. I always want to keep learning - if you are not getting better, than you are probably getting worse.

Thanks to everyone for the advice for next time. I just got out the official's manual and re-read the part where it lists all the things an official must be (at the beginning). Now you guys have me all excited to go back in there and do a great job.

(Edited for grammatical correctness. Hopefully)

[Edited by SF on Feb 1st, 2005 at 01:00 AM]
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Old Tue Feb 01, 2005, 01:03am
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Okay, last piece of advice.

Don't use phrases like, "Sit down and stop shouting," or "I don't want to hear another word," when handling coaches.

Stick to, "Coach I need you in the box," or "I've heard enough coach." The enough is best used with the stop sign, so everyone sees that you have calmly dealt with the situation.
I actually said "Coach, I understand why your upset, but that's enough." I read this forum enough to know not to say "I don't want to hear another word."

And you can keep the advice coming. I always want to keep learning - if your not getting better, than your probably getting worse.
Glad to hear it. You emphathized but were firm, which is perfect. Everyone that saw/heard the exchange saw a calm professional and a childish jerk, and that is how we always want it to be.
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Old Tue Feb 01, 2005, 09:07am
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To clarify:

The visitors went from down 2 points to down 4 points

We checked the home book and visitor book at halftime. Everything fit. Both agreed at time of technical that visitor was really down 4, and that the scoreboard, which displayed down 2, was wrong.

I warned the coach once that he needed to sit down and stop shouting. I figured that was enough and gave the T.

I did not give a T to the player, but afterwards was thinking that maybe I should have. I just warned him.

I just got a call from my assignor, saying the coach through another postgame fit, calling me "unprofessional, inconsistent and constantly out of position." However, he said this coach always says that about the officials when he gets a technical. Turns out I have another game with that coach this weekend. Assignor warned me that he is known to hold grudges and will most likely try to cause a problem. Great.
Great chance for you to shine.
Start him with a clean slate and don't let that Jack-DonkeyButt intimidate you at all. Of course, he gets a short leash and communicate with your partner so if you have to T, they'll get in there and help.
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Old Tue Feb 01, 2005, 01:17pm
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I appreciate the fact you stood up for the "non-officiating" members of your team. I was at a BV last week, in which, with 56 seconds left in the first quarter, the scoreboard operator forgot to start the clock. He might have had a two or three second delay. The visiting coach went ballistic, stalked up to the scorer's table, and screamed something along the lines of, "we can't have this, not in a game this important", three or four times in succession. The officiating crew never said a word to the coach.

I know its frustrating for refs to have incompetent or apathetic scorers', but its good to see when you take care of folks who make honest mistakes.
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