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mick Sat Jan 15, 2005 09:56pm

Quote:

Originally posted by evrclear02
Thank you for the response, although I'm still trying to interpret the rule in the context of my scenario.
In accordance with Ref Daddy's post, it is apparent that Team control is a requirement leading to an over-and-back violation.

Now look at the definitions of player control and of team control:
<LI> Rule 4-12-1 A player is in control of the ball when he/she is <U>holding or dribbling</U> a live ball in bounds.
<LI> Rule 4-12-2 A team is in control of the ball when a player of the team is in control.
<LI> Rule 4-12-6 Neither team control nor player control exists during a dead ball, <B>throw-in</B>, a jump ball, or when the ball is in flight during a try or tap.

In your case there was no team control during the throw-in nor was there team control by any of your teammates who had not held or dribbled the live ball inbounds until it was retreived in the back court.
It is easy to see there was no team control while the ball was in your front court. Player/Team control originated in your back court.
Thus, there could be no over-and-back violation. The ball never went over. It only went back. ;)
mick

evrclear02 Sat Jan 15, 2005 10:08pm

Thanks Mick...very helpful.

williebfree Sat Jan 15, 2005 11:11pm

Hmmmmm
 
EvrClear02:

Welcome to the forum!

I hope your brief exposure into the NFHS Rulebook has given you a greater appreciation of the challenges officials encounter when memorizing the rules and their quirky nuances and applying them wisely (and instantaneously) in game situations.

Let me caution you... A little knowledge can be dangerous. Just observe the typical fan or the ranting and raving coach :). Often times their percieved injustice is generated from a lack of rules knowledge and application. It is hoped that you now understand the basis for the label of FANatic.

One other thing that the typical fan does not understand: Officials DO NOT CARE WHO WINS.

I hope your visit to the forum has been pleasurable and made you a better fan of (and in) the game.

Best wishes.


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