Block/Charge Call in Miami v. Virginia

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.
(1)I will not dispute that the fact that the NFHS and NCAA Men’s Rules Committees have given us a ruling (or interpretation, if you will) telling us how to handle this situation.

()(It is a bad interpretation and I cover the situation in my pre-game conferences so as to avoid such a situation, if it occurs.

(1) Finally. Blarges live!!

(2) I kinda disagree with that too. It is not a bad interpretation per se; I think it's a needed interpretation. It's needed because the reality is that blarges do occur, whether we think that they should never happen or not. And when the blarges do come up, we need rules to handle them.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee

(1) Finally. Blarges live!!

(2) I kinda disagree with that too. It is not a bad interpretation per se; I think it's a needed interpretation. It's needed because the reality is that blarges do occur, whether we think that they should never happen or not. And when the blarges do come up, we need rules to handle them.

JR:

Are telling me that the way the NFHS and NCAA Men's handles this situation is better than the way the NCAA Women's handle it?

MTD, Sr.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.
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JR:

Are telling me that the way the NFHS and NCAA Men's handles this situation is better than the way the NCAA Women's handle it?

[/B][/QUOTE]No, Mark, all I'm telling you is what I've been trying to tell you all along. The rules we use in high school allow for blarges and they also tell us how to handle them. End of story. Whether I personally like the rule or not isn't and never was relevant. I respect your right to have a strong opinion about whether the "blarge" rule is a good rule or not. However, to try and intimate that there wasn't a rule related to blarges or that blarges didn't exist, by rule, was wrong.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee

JR:

Are telling me that the way the NFHS and NCAA Men's handles this situation is better than the way the NCAA Women's handle it?

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No, Mark, all I'm telling you is what I've been trying to tell you all along. The rules we use in high school allow for blarges and they also tell us how to handle them. End of story. Whether I personally like the rule or not isn't and never was relevant. I respect your right to have a strong opinion about whether the "blarge" rule is a good rule or not. However, to try and intimate that there wasn't a rule related to blarges or that blarges didn't exist, by rule, was wrong. [/B][/QUOTE]



JR:

Camron and I have both told you that we recognize the fact that the NFHS and NCAA Men's has an official position on how to handle a BLARGE. So stop saying that I do not recoginze that their rules interpretation does not exsist. I am stating that the interpretation cannot be supported by rule. Go back and read my post of Jan. 14/10:57pm, 2005, on page 3 of this thread. That post describes what is wrong with the interpretation.

I guess the real questions are: In a game being played under NFHS or NCAA Men's rules, have you ever had a BLARGE? How did you handle it? Do you pregame how to handle a BLARGE?

MTD, Sr.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.
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Camron and I have both told you that we recognize the fact that the NFHS and NCAA Men's has an official position on how to handle a BLARGE. So stop saying that I do not recoginze that their rules interpretation does not exsist. I am stating that the interpretation cannot be supported by rule.

[/B][/QUOTE]Direct quotes from MTD Sr. in this thread:

1) "Because by rule a blarge is impossible"
2) "You just cannot have a block and a charge involving the same two players. The rules do not allow it".

Your own words prove you wrong, Mark, not me.

Lah me.

[blindzebra]

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee

Camron and I have both told you that we recognize the fact that the NFHS and NCAA Men's has an official position on how to handle a BLARGE. So stop saying that I do not recoginze that their rules interpretation does not exsist. I am stating that the interpretation cannot be supported by rule.

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Direct quotes from MTD Sr. in this thread:

1) "Because by rule a blarge is impossible"
2) "You just cannot have a block and a charge involving the same two players. The rules do not allow it".

Your own words prove you wrong, Mark, not me.

Lah me. [/B][/QUOTE]

JR, why are we always wasting our time doing this? We have both proved him wrong countless times, only to have him go off with the read this and that's not what I said nonsense.

His next move will be a 2,000 word post with 6 different plays, that have absolutely NOTHING to do with the rules that cover this situation.

[BktBallRef]

Originally posted by blindzebra
JR, why are we always wasting our time doing this?

Because you're both more stubborn than me. I got out of this one several pages ago!

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally posted by BktBallRef

Because you're both more stubborn than me. I got out of this one several pages ago!

Yeah, you think that I mighta learned by now. Who sez you can equate age with wisdom? That's obviously untrue in my case.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

JR:

You still haven't answered my questions: In a game being played under NFHS or NCAA Men's rules, have you ever had a BLARGE? How did you handle it? Do you pregame how to handle a BLARGE?

I told you that I teach my student officials what the rules and casebook plays are and that if one gets in that situation to use the rules and casebook situations. But we know that there are plays that are covered in the casebook are situations that with a good pregame conference can be eliminated. BLARGES and simultaneous common fouls are situations that can be handled with a good pregame conference. I know how I would and have handled BLARGES. Please tell me how you handle BLARGES.

MTD, Sr.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.
JR:

You still haven't answered my questions:
1) In a game being played under NFHS or NCAA Men's rules, have you ever had a BLARGE?
2)How did you handle it?
3)Do you pregame how to handle a BLARGE?

1) Yes.
2) By the applicable rule.
3) Yes.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee

1) Yes.
2) By the applicable rule.
3) Yes.

JR:

What do you discuss in your pregame about how to handle a BLARGE?

MTD, Sr.