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rainmaker Mon Jan 03, 2005 10:57pm
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Originally posted by Dan_ref
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Originally posted by rainmaker
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Rainmaker, worry more about whether legal guarding position was established and where the defender took the contact. If legal guarding position was established and the defender takes the contact in the torso the feet do not have to be set and more times than not this will be a charge.
Tom -- thank you for this very insightful and illuminating discussion of the block/charge. Too bad it doesn't have anything to do with the original post.

Obviously, you guys didn't understand me. What does it take to get through to you-all? Sheez, what a bunch of...

Hey, you know, Gordon is right, I like this routine! It feels great to say whatever offensive thing pops into my head and let YOU worry about it. After all, I can't offend you, unless you let me, right, Larry S? So it doesn't matter what I say, eh?
Uhmmm....I'm not the sharpest knife in this drawer but Juulie, wtf ARE you trying to tell us?? Make it simple enough for we dummys in the back of the class to understand, OK?
Dan, you must be some kinda dummy if you can't get it when mick and bz can. And as long as I'm not being responsible for the damage I cause, I can think of some other names...

...but maybe it's not fair to go all obnoxious and inner male on you, when you've backed down and done the squishy-feelings thing for me a time or two.

It's not the advice to "move your feet" that I've got a problem with. It's the timing. What mick said is exactly right. Player establishes legal guarding position, and stands very still to take the charge, and then when dribbler starts to get around defender, she moves her feet, just like coach told her. But she moved them sideways, and late, and now it's an easy block. And to top it off, what does coach say to defender during the free throws? "I told you to move your feet!" How helpful...

mick Mon Jan 03, 2005 11:03pm
[QUOTE]Originally posted by rainmaker
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Originally posted by Dan_ref

Dan, you must be some kinda dummy if you can't get it when mick and bz can.
Ouch !
mick

Dan_ref Mon Jan 03, 2005 11:09pm
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Originally posted by rainmaker


Dan, you must be some kinda dummy if you can't get it when mick and bz can. And as long as I'm not being responsible for the damage I cause, I can think of some other names...


I already admitted to being a dummy in my post. So you're merely being redundant.
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...but maybe it's not fair to go all obnoxious and inner male on you, when you've backed down and done the squishy-feelings thing for me a time or two.
Inner male?

Nah. More like your inner jerk right now.

Adam Mon Jan 03, 2005 11:13pm
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Originally posted by rainmaker
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Originally posted by Dan_ref
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Originally posted by rainmaker
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Originally posted by tomegun
Rainmaker, worry more about whether legal guarding position was established and where the defender took the contact. If legal guarding position was established and the defender takes the contact in the torso the feet do not have to be set and more times than not this will be a charge.
Tom -- thank you for this very insightful and illuminating discussion of the block/charge. Too bad it doesn't have anything to do with the original post.

Obviously, you guys didn't understand me. What does it take to get through to you-all? Sheez, what a bunch of...

Hey, you know, Gordon is right, I like this routine! It feels great to say whatever offensive thing pops into my head and let YOU worry about it. After all, I can't offend you, unless you let me, right, Larry S? So it doesn't matter what I say, eh?
Uhmmm....I'm not the sharpest knife in this drawer but Juulie, wtf ARE you trying to tell us?? Make it simple enough for we dummys in the back of the class to understand, OK?
Dan, you must be some kinda dummy if you can't get it when mick and bz can. And as long as I'm not being responsible for the damage I cause, I can think of some other names...

...but maybe it's not fair to go all obnoxious and inner male on you, when you've backed down and done the squishy-feelings thing for me a time or two.

It's not the advice to "move your feet" that I've got a problem with. It's the timing. What mick said is exactly right. Player establishes legal guarding position, and stands very still to take the charge, and then when dribbler starts to get around defender, she moves her feet, just like coach told her. But she moved them sideways, and late, and now it's an easy block. And to top it off, what does coach say to defender during the free throws? "I told you to move your feet!" How helpful...
Wow! I hope that was cathartic, Juulie. ;)

mick Mon Jan 03, 2005 11:21pm
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Originally posted by Snaqwells

Wow! I hope that was cathartic, Juulie. ;)
Nope.
Protestant.
mick

rainmaker Tue Jan 04, 2005 12:14am
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Originally posted by mick
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Originally posted by Snaqwells

Wow! I hope that was cathartic, Juulie. ;)
Nope.
Protestant.
mick
Well, technically Anabaptist. But not acting very much so at the moment. Just feeling generally grouchy, and trying to practice acting it out, according to gordon's philosophy. It WAS cathartic when I said it, but I don't think I was cut out to be a jerk. I guess Gordon's gonna have to do that one by himself. No, wait. He and Larry S. can sit on the porch of the old folks' home by themselves, trading insults, and not feeling guilty about all the people in their lives they hurt. After all, it's their own dam' fault, right?

tomegun Tue Jan 04, 2005 06:28am
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Originally posted by mick
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Originally posted by blindzebra
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Originally posted by tomegun
Rainmaker, worry more about whether legal guarding position was established and where the defender took the contact. If legal guarding position was established and the defender takes the contact in the torso the feet do not have to be set and more times than not this will be a charge.
What if B1 had LGP and takes it in the chest, but steps TOWARD A1 at the point of contact?

or

What if B1 has LGP, does not step, but turns at the last second and takes the contact on their side?

More often than not, when you say,"More often than not," some smart a$$ will point out that's not always the case.:D
Block and Block <small>,"More often than not"</small>
mick
What if the defender obtains LGP and while moving side to side takes contact in the torso?

What if the defender obtains LGP and takes a step BACKWARDS then takes contact in the torso?

I don't mind someone pointing out what I left out. It was pretty much a test to see how long it would take for someone to come to the rescue. I even sent an email to another member yesterday to check it out. I guess I anticipated this play correctly :D

gordon30307 Tue Jan 04, 2005 09:54am
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Originally posted by rainmaker
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Originally posted by mick
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Originally posted by Snaqwells

Wow! I hope that was cathartic, Juulie. ;)
Nope.
Protestant.
mick
Well, technically Anabaptist. But not acting very much so at the moment. Just feeling generally grouchy, and trying to practice acting it out, according to gordon's philosophy. It WAS cathartic when I said it, but I don't think I was cut out to be a jerk. I guess Gordon's gonna have to do that one by himself. No, wait. He and Larry S. can sit on the porch of the old folks' home by themselves, trading insults, and not feeling guilty about all the people in their lives they hurt. After all, it's their own dam' fault, right?
I can't stand it PC (Politically Correct) rears it's ugly head. I bet you're against Christmas Carrols in public schools because it might offend someone. Anything I said or implied pertained to officiating basketball only!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Your quotation implies to me that you truly are arrogant and small minded and that you know what's best for the world. History is filled with people that have this attitude. Lighten up and have some fun for a change.

mick Tue Jan 04, 2005 10:56am
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Originally posted by rainmaker
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Originally posted by mick
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Originally posted by Snaqwells

Wow! I hope that was cathartic, Juulie. ;)
Nope.
Protestant.
mick
Well, technically Anabaptist.
Well, uh-uh!
Afterall, you <U>were</U> protesting.
mick

rainmaker Tue Jan 04, 2005 11:43am
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Originally posted by gordon30307
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Originally posted by rainmaker
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Originally posted by mick
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Originally posted by Snaqwells

Wow! I hope that was cathartic, Juulie. ;)
Nope.
Protestant.
mick
Well, technically Anabaptist. But not acting very much so at the moment. Just feeling generally grouchy, and trying to practice acting it out, according to gordon's philosophy. It WAS cathartic when I said it, but I don't think I was cut out to be a jerk. I guess Gordon's gonna have to do that one by himself. No, wait. He and Larry S. can sit on the porch of the old folks' home by themselves, trading insults, and not feeling guilty about all the people in their lives they hurt. After all, it's their own dam' fault, right?
I can't stand it PC (Politically Correct) rears it's ugly head. I bet you're against Christmas Carrols in public schools because it might offend someone. Anything I said or implied pertained to officiating basketball only!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Your quotation implies to me that you truly are arrogant and small minded and that you know what's best for the world. History is filled with people that have this attitude. Lighten up and have some fun for a change.
Hoo-ee! Gotcha!!

gordon30307 Tue Jan 04, 2005 12:04pm
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Originally posted by rainmaker
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Originally posted by gordon30307
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Originally posted by rainmaker
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Originally posted by mick
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Originally posted by Snaqwells

Wow! I hope that was cathartic, Juulie. ;)
Nope.
Protestant.
mick
Well, technically Anabaptist. But not acting very much so at the moment. Just feeling generally grouchy, and trying to practice acting it out, according to gordon's philosophy. It WAS cathartic when I said it, but I don't think I was cut out to be a jerk. I guess Gordon's gonna have to do that one by himself. No, wait. He and Larry S. can sit on the porch of the old folks' home by themselves, trading insults, and not feeling guilty about all the people in their lives they hurt. After all, it's their own dam' fault, right?
I can't stand it PC (Politically Correct) rears it's ugly head. I bet you're against Christmas Carrols in public schools because it might offend someone. Anything I said or implied pertained to officiating basketball only!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Your quotation implies to me that you truly are arrogant and small minded and that you know what's best for the world. History is filled with people that have this attitude. Lighten up and have some fun for a change.
Hoo-ee! Gotcha!!
Got what??????????????????????????????????

rainmaker Tue Jan 04, 2005 12:12pm
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Originally posted by gordon30307
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Originally posted by rainmaker
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Originally posted by gordon30307
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Originally posted by rainmaker
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Originally posted by mick
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Originally posted by Snaqwells

Wow! I hope that was cathartic, Juulie. ;)
Nope.
Protestant.
mick
Well, technically Anabaptist. But not acting very much so at the moment. Just feeling generally grouchy, and trying to practice acting it out, according to gordon's philosophy. It WAS cathartic when I said it, but I don't think I was cut out to be a jerk. I guess Gordon's gonna have to do that one by himself. No, wait. He and Larry S. can sit on the porch of the old folks' home by themselves, trading insults, and not feeling guilty about all the people in their lives they hurt. After all, it's their own dam' fault, right?
I can't stand it PC (Politically Correct) rears it's ugly head. I bet you're against Christmas Carrols in public schools because it might offend someone. Anything I said or implied pertained to officiating basketball only!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Your quotation implies to me that you truly are arrogant and small minded and that you know what's best for the world. History is filled with people that have this attitude. Lighten up and have some fun for a change.
Hoo-ee! Gotcha!!
Got what??????????????????????????????????
I'm not sure why this is important, butI'm not opposed to Christmas carols in the public schools. I'm also not interested in PC. But, I'm perfectly willing for you to win this little brouhaha. You respond to this, and I won't respond back. You can have the last word. I'm sure you're a great ref, but I'm sure glad you're not my next door neighbor.

gordon30307 Tue Jan 04, 2005 02:46pm
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Originally posted by rainmaker
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Originally posted by gordon30307
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Originally posted by rainmaker
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Originally posted by gordon30307
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Originally posted by rainmaker
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Originally posted by mick
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Originally posted by Snaqwells

Wow! I hope that was cathartic, Juulie. ;)
Nope.
Protestant.
mick
Well, technically Anabaptist. But not acting very much so at the moment. Just feeling generally grouchy, and trying to practice acting it out, according to gordon's philosophy. It WAS cathartic when I said it, but I don't think I was cut out to be a jerk. I guess Gordon's gonna have to do that one by himself. No, wait. He and Larry S. can sit on the porch of the old folks' home by themselves, trading insults, and not feeling guilty about all the people in their lives they hurt. After all, it's their own dam' fault, right?
I can't stand it PC (Politically Correct) rears it's ugly head. I bet you're against Christmas Carrols in public schools because it might offend someone. Anything I said or implied pertained to officiating basketball only!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Your quotation implies to me that you truly are arrogant and small minded and that you know what's best for the world. History is filled with people that have this attitude. Lighten up and have some fun for a change.
Hoo-ee! Gotcha!!
Got what??????????????????????????????????
I'm not sure why this is important, butI'm not opposed to Christmas carols in the public schools. I'm also not interested in PC. But, I'm perfectly willing for you to win this little brouhaha. You respond to this, and I won't respond back. You can have the last word. I'm sure you're a great ref, but I'm sure glad you're not my next door neighbor.
Methinks the Lady doth protest too much.

tomegun Tue Jan 04, 2005 02:52pm
Gordon, hush! Her majesty has spoken. You better be careful or you will hear from members of the royal court!!!!!!!!!!!:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Nevadaref Wed Jan 05, 2005 02:25am
What I got out of this thread
 
1. It's that time of the month for Juulie
2. Z and tomegun know PC
3. Tony likes to stir the pot
4. Mick is funnier than hell
5. Dan's a dummy, but a funny dummy
6. gordon's an a$$

I'd say the new year is off to great start.


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