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Hartsy Thu Dec 30, 2004 09:53am

Re: I agree... annoying to say the least
 
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Originally posted by williebfree
If it is avoidable in this situation, I am going to hold my whistle a little longer and let them play on.... if the player in question stays in the lane for an additional 2-3 seconds I will call it.


The coaches count always seems to be a second or two (or three) early on a backcourt 10 second count or a throw-in 5 second count.

If a coach yells "5! 5! 5!", I may be at 5 on my count by the time he is done. Thats when I would really prefer to go to a 6 count. Or start over at 1 'cause I lost count with all the 5's raining down.

Hartsy

lrpalmer3 Thu Dec 30, 2004 01:16pm

The player had been in the lane 5 seconds and I was coming with the call anyway. He just happened to yell it right before I called it. The call must be made (it's the rule), I just hate to make it. I'm not going to suspend a rule just to prove to the fans that I'm not persuaded by a coach. My actions the rest of the game should establish that.

joseph2493 Thu Dec 30, 2004 01:25pm

I had a little dribblers coach howlering that at me, "3,3,3,3,3,3", so I turned around and told him "coach, your making me loose count."

It worked.

aussie_ref Thu Dec 30, 2004 08:00pm

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Originally posted by lrpalmer3
The player had been in the lane 5 seconds and I was coming with the call anyway. He just happened to yell it right before I called it. The call must be made (it's the rule), I just hate to make it. I'm not going to suspend a rule just to prove to the fans that I'm not persuaded by a coach. My actions the rest of the game should establish that.
You could view it from that perspective but then u might give the false impression to a coach that hes controlling the game so maybe you could miss that one by just warning the players to get out. Insted of letting the coach be o your back the rest of the game.

ref18 Thu Dec 30, 2004 08:31pm

I tend to not watch for it after the coach starts yelling about it :p

mick Thu Dec 30, 2004 08:37pm

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Originally posted by ChrisSportsFan
While it is possible that the Coach is coaching rather than reffing (a-hem, snicker-snicker, roll-of-the-eyes, smirk), I am reasonably certain that there is no ocean near Wisconsin so you got jipped when you bought that property Rich.
Yer right, Chris.
He's got one of the lesser lakes. :)
mick


icallfouls Thu Dec 30, 2004 09:26pm

I have a couple of responses for this situation, feel free to use any of them.
1) "Coach, you really don't want me to call that."
2) "OK, but I'll start at your end first."
3) Or I'll just ignore the request until that coach's team runs their next offensive set.

mick Thu Dec 30, 2004 09:40pm

Quote:

Originally posted by icallfouls
I have a couple of responses for this situation, feel free to use any of them.
1) "Coach, you really don't want me to call that."
2) "OK, but I'll start at your end first."
3) Or I'll just ignore the request until that coach's team runs their next offensive set.

Oh, my ! :rolleyes:
I usually get more experienced partners that are neither vindictive, power hungry, nor sassy.
mick

Ref Daddy Thu Dec 30, 2004 10:29pm


I too hate this situation - what to do!

Around here we will start a visual count when spectators want to call 3 seconds - arm swing or something.

It's kinda a compromise. We also yell like hell - Get outta the lane.

With us, the crowd and the coach's yelling - they usually get a clue quick.

mick Fri Dec 31, 2004 11:15am

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Originally posted by Ref Daddy

Around here we will start a visual count when spectators want to call 3 seconds - arm swing or something.

It's kinda a compromise. We also yell like hell - Get outta the lane.

With us, the crowd and the coach's yelling - they usually get a clue quick.

Ref Daddy,
Seems a little like the cart being before the horse if the fans, coaches are forcing the use of improper mechanics [arm swing].

But if you feel your goal of appeasing the crowd makes the game better, it certainly is your floor and your choice.
mick




lrpalmer3 Fri Dec 31, 2004 12:00pm

Yeah, I'm confused. Would you act the same way if a fan yelled "3 seconds"? Why not make the call? Instead, you're giving him the 5 seconds he's been in the lane plus a verbal warning, plus another 3 seconds?

I understand that you don't want to appear "bought" but let's not ignore the rules to save a little face.

rainmaker Sat Jan 01, 2005 01:32am

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Originally posted by mick
Quote:

Originally posted by icallfouls
I have a couple of responses for this situation, feel free to use any of them.
1) "Coach, you really don't want me to call that."
2) "OK, but I'll start at your end first."
3) Or I'll just ignore the request until that coach's team runs their next offensive set.

Oh, my ! :rolleyes:
I usually get more experienced partners that are neither vindictive, power hungry, nor sassy.
mick

Just for the record, when he actually does these things, they make the game better. He's a partner you'd be happy to work with, mick.

Nevadaref Sat Jan 01, 2005 04:46am

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Originally posted by joseph2493
I turned around and told him "coach, your making me loose count."

Did he tell you to tighten it up? :D

mick Sat Jan 01, 2005 08:30am

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Originally posted by rainmaker
Quote:

Originally posted by mick
Quote:

Originally posted by icallfouls
I have a couple of responses for this situation, feel free to use any of them.
1) "Coach, you really don't want me to call that."
2) "OK, but I'll start at your end first."
3) Or I'll just ignore the request until that coach's team runs their next offensive set.

Oh, my ! :rolleyes:
I usually get more experienced partners that are neither vindictive, power hungry, nor sassy.
mick

Just for the record, when he actually does these things, they make the game better. He's a partner you'd be happy to work with, mick.

I believe you, Jewel. :)
But I do not imagine those three statements are taught in your Rookie Training.
Have a good New Year.
mick

theboys Mon Jan 03, 2005 03:07pm

Hey, Jimgolf, the coach would tell you to get up in the stands, where everyone else is offering him advice in breaths between criticizing referees.


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