In or Out of Bounds??

[easygoer]

This has come up several times. On a play under the basket near a sideline whatever. "A" player who is in the game steps out of bounds with both feet, "B" player (of the opposite team) trying to save the ball throws it off of "A" player who is standing out of bounds. Whose ball is it? The argument is that since "A" player who has both feet out is out of the play, it can't be out on him. If this were the case what would prevent the defense from stepping out of bounds on every saved ball attempt and touching the ball while being out of bounds??

Thanks

[Lotto]

Out of bounds on A. Give the ball to B.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally posted by easygoer
If this were the case what would prevent the defense from stepping out of bounds on every saved ball attempt and touching the ball while being out of bounds??

That's one of the reasons it's not the case.

[BktBallRef]

Originally posted by easygoer
This has come up several times. On a play under the basket near a sideline whatever. "A" player who is in the game steps out of bounds with both feet, "B" player (of the opposite team) trying to save the ball throws it off of "A" player who is standing out of bounds. Whose ball is it? The argument is that since "A" player who has both feet out is out of the play, it can't be out on him. If this were the case what would prevent the defense from stepping out of bounds on every saved ball attempt and touching the ball while being out of bounds??

Thanks

The argument is wrong.

On an inbounds play, thrower A1 passes the ball, B1 deflects the pass and it hits A1 who is still standing OOB. Who gets the ball?

[easygoer]

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[Adam]

Originally posted by easygoer
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If A1 touches the ball while standing out of bounds, A1 has caused the ball to go out of bounds. Keep it simple, and it makes sense.

B gets the ball.

[BktBallRef]

Originally posted by Snaqwells

If A1 touches the ball while standing out of bounds, A1 has caused the ball to go out of bounds. Keep it simple, and it makes sense.

B gets the ball.

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[Jimgolf]

Originally posted by easygoer
"A" player who is in the game steps out of bounds with both feet, "B" player (of the opposite team) trying to save the ball throws it off of "A" player who is standing out of bounds.

Why is this not a technical foul on A?

[Adam]

Originally posted by BktBallRef

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It's a good thing. There's no money in cookies.
Now officiating....

[BktBallRef]

C'mon now! Those are damn good cookies!

[Hartsy]

Originally posted by Jimgolf

Why is this not a technical foul on A? [/B]

I think the T is generally called only for going out of bounds w/o authorization and gaining an advantage. No advantage to be gained here. I suppose a T would be correct strictly "by the book".

Hartsy

[johnnyrao]

Unfortunately this sometimes hurts a team. Had a kid (A1) last night in a Boys V game hustle more than any other I have seen all year. He saves a ball from going OOBs and falls to the ground. The ball rebounds off B1 and falls right in the kids lap on the ground. It pained my P to call the violation and gave the ball, correctly, to B.

[joseph2493]

Originally posted by Jimgolf

Why is this not a technical foul on A?

It is!

[Rich]

Originally posted by joseph2493

It is!

It is what? Your opportunity to prove you don't understand the spirit of the rule?

[Adam]

Originally posted by Hartsy

I think the T is generally called only for going out of bounds w/o authorization and gaining an advantage. No advantage to be gained here. I suppose a T would be correct strictly "by the book".

Hartsy [/B]

We don't know why he went oob. His momentum may have carried him out trying to save a ball. In most cases, it's not a T because the reason he left is "authorized."

Perhaps the fed should define "authorized reason" here.