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Old Mon Dec 27, 2004, 01:53pm
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Untied shoelaces, unlike water on the floor, injured players, blood, eyeglasses off, etc. are entirely within the control of the player involved. As has been stated, it takes only a few seconds for him/her to retie them. There is no need to stop the game to remedy this hazard.
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Old Mon Dec 27, 2004, 01:59pm
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Let's assume we have been instructed not to stop the game for a stuck net. A gets a breakaway layup, but the net is stuck so tightly that his shot cannot pass through. Just to make it more interesting, lets say the ball comes to rest on top of the stuck net. What then?

Can we award the basket based on 2-3? Or do we simply say, "Too bad?"

If we don't award a basket, do we go to the arrow because the ball came to rest on the basket (I don't have my book, does the verbiage support this possibility, or just coming to rest on the flange)? Will it matter, since the offended coach will likely earn a T on this play.
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Old Mon Dec 27, 2004, 02:12pm
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Can we award the basket based on 2-3? Or do we simply say, "Too bad?"

I'd answer "no" to both questions.

See "how points are scored" (sorry - -I don't have my books handy) and note that the ball needn't pass through the basket for points to be scored.
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Old Mon Dec 27, 2004, 02:34pm
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Can we award the basket based on 2-3? Or do we simply say, "Too bad?"

I'd answer "no" to both questions.

See "how points are scored" (sorry - -I don't have my books handy) and note that the ball needn't pass through the basket for points to be scored.
I don't have my books handy either. But from your post I'll assume the book says something about "a live ball enters the basket from above?" It's the violation that talks about a ball "passing through" the basket from below?
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I don't stop the game for stuck nets or untied shoes.
What about untied nets or stuck shoes?
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Old Mon Dec 27, 2004, 02:40pm
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I don't stop the game for stuck nets or untied shoes.
What about untied nets or stuck shoes?
Probably depends on where the shoes are stuck
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Old Mon Dec 27, 2004, 03:52pm
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I don't have my books handy either. But from your post I'll assume the book says something about "a live ball enters the basket from above?" It's the violation that talks about a ball "passing through" the basket from below?
"Passes through or remains in the basket" -- the latter describes the situation at hand.

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Old Mon Dec 27, 2004, 04:02pm
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I don't have my books handy either. But from your post I'll assume the book says something about "a live ball enters the basket from above?" It's the violation that talks about a ball "passing through" the basket from below?
"Passes through or remains in the basket" -- the latter describes the situation at hand.

But it does not cover a shot that bounces out off the stuck net.
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Old Mon Dec 27, 2004, 05:26pm
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I don't have my books handy either. But from your post I'll assume the book says something about "a live ball enters the basket from above?" It's the violation that talks about a ball "passing through" the basket from below?
"Passes through or remains in the basket" -- the latter describes the situation at hand.

We're covered if an older gym is still using peach baskets! And it's close enough to handling coming to rest on the stuck net.

But blindzebra is correct, it doesn't cover bouncing off because of a stuck net. Which brings me back to my original questions ...
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Old Tue Dec 28, 2004, 08:09am
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I don't have my books handy either. But from your post I'll assume the book says something about "a live ball enters the basket from above?" It's the violation that talks about a ball "passing through" the basket from below?
"Passes through or remains in the basket" -- the latter describes the situation at hand.

But it does not cover a shot that bounces out off the stuck net.
Agreed.

But the play to which I was responding was BITS' "lets (sic) say the ball comes to rest on top of the stuck net. What then?"
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