When to whack...counting out loud...

[Camron Rust]

Originally posted by ref18
So on an inbounds pass control doesn't need to be established for the shot clock to start???

Not under NCAA rules. This was changed 3-4 years ago to remove the ever present discrepencies between the shot clock and the backcourt count and the confusion (among coaches/fans/players) over the difference. This is generally the same since most inbounds passes are immediately controlled.