When does the 10 second count begin?

[ChuckElias]

Originally posted by mdray
as an aside, in games that involve a shot clock, the shot clock begins when the ball touches any player inbounds

Which is why you can't always use the shot clock to determine your 10-second violation. The shot clock starts on the touch, but the ball could be batted for several seconds before it's controlled. So your 10-second count might not even start until the shot clock was down to 27.

(NBA's a different story, of course. Since there's team control during the throw-in, the 8-second count starts as soon as the ball is touched inbounds.)