When does the 10 second count begin?

[Jay R]

Does the 10 second count start when the ball is touched by a player after a throw-in or with player control after a throw-in? Does the fact that in NCAA rules team control exists during the throw-in affect this rule at all as compared to Fed?

[Snake~eyes]

In FED 10 second count starts when there is team control int he backcourt.

[ChuckElias]

In NCAA, team control exists during the throw-in, but the 10 second count doesn't begin until the throw-in is controlled inbounds.

[mdray]

as an aside, in games that involve a shot clock, the shot clock begins when the ball touches any player inbounds

[ChuckElias]

Originally posted by mdray
as an aside, in games that involve a shot clock, the shot clock begins when the ball touches any player inbounds

Which is why you can't always use the shot clock to determine your 10-second violation. The shot clock starts on the touch, but the ball could be batted for several seconds before it's controlled. So your 10-second count might not even start until the shot clock was down to 27.

(NBA's a different story, of course. Since there's team control during the throw-in, the 8-second count starts as soon as the ball is touched inbounds.)