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I want to ask Dan, soo..o..o.. what did YOU do? |
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Now sometime in the first half one of the Black players on the home team accused the other team of calling him the "N-word." Now the two people that would likely have heard it, was both myself and my umpire. It would not surprise me that someone used that word in a pile or somewhere on the field, but I cannot penalize anything I did not hear. The kid got upset and then accused one of my partners (the crew chief) of saying the same thing. This kid later snapped and took off his helmet and hit himself with it. The kid was bleeding as a result and was all over the coach. Well the coach was a winner as well and I personally had given an Unsportsmanlike Foul to the coach at about the same time this kid went ballistic about being called the "N-word." I was personally was unaware of this incident until we came together to access all the fouls (3 were given against this one team). After I realized what was going on and we had to explain why this kid was now ejected from the game, we had to justify our actions. When we told the coach what had happen, the coaching staff claimed this kid was the most outstanding individual and would never act in anyway without being provoked. When halftime came, an assistant coach tried to approach us accusing one of my partner's of using the "N-word" (not the Black guys btw). When this was happening I was still unaware of all the circumstances that took place with this kid and why he was ejected from the game. When we got to our stop for halftime, the Principal of the school was asking us what had happen and what the kid said and did. He also backed up the story about how great this kid was and "He would not do anything like that. That is not the kind of character he has." When the game was over, the AD echoed the very same thing. "He would not act that way without someone provoking him." So instead of the actions of the kid were in question, our actions were really in question. Now I must make it clear that all the coaches were white and accusing the white officials on the crew of making inappropriate statements. It was surreal because you would think they would just look at me and my umpire and see that we might not tolerate that kind of behavior. Instead of focusing on the actions of the player, the integrity of our crew was questioned and I am the face of that crew. Now in football you do not have a foul system that can really eject a player. Of course you have Unsportsmanlike fouls to help you, but those have to be there or justified. If I give a player or coach one of those I have to file a report with the state office. If I foul out a kid or his coach sets him on the bench for fouls, I do not have to justify anything. There is a reason we teach officials to stay away from the table or when we talk to a coach, have a witness. We want to take away the doubt if something goes wrong. If a player approaches me one on one, it is his word against mine. And most coaches I know will take the kids word over my word or the word of my partner. Of course some coaches will stand up and take issue with the actions of the kid and might make him run in practice until the cows come home. But it is not the honorable coach I am looking to take action. So I will handle it another way instead of taking the easy way out. He will get the message that we are not on the same page. I would even take a very similar route as BITS suggested. Just T'ing in my book is not automatically the answer. Peace |
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Wow, this thread is getting involved. Not surprising since any issue involving race is a lightning rod in America. Not necessarily good or bad, just the way it is.
First of all, I personally wouldn't have T'd the kid. As Rut said, this is much different than the "N word." To me, the N word is profanity and an automatic T. This kid just made a stupid comment that was as ignorant as it was wrong. Make no mistake, I would straighten him out real quick with something like, <i>"hey number 24, I call them as I see them just like my partner does. He doesn't care which team wins this game any more than I do. The only thing we care about is that we keep it as fair as we can. I will not tolerate any more comments like that."</i> Now he's had his "sportsmanlike warning." If someone I was working with felt the need to call a T in that situation, I wouldn't have a problem with it, but I can't see me calling one at that point. My skin (no pun intended) is thicker than that. What I don't agree with Rut on is changing the way I call fouls on that particular kid. That's worse than just calling a T, clearing the slate and moving on. Calling fouls on him later in the game that wouldn't be a foul by any other player is "holding a grudge" and approaches unethical, IMHO. Besides, you're penalizing more than just that kid by doing that... your penalizing his teammates with those "additional fouls" as well. As far as having to fill out reports or having to justify a T with an assignor, I couldn't care less. I do what I think is appropriate at the time to manage the game without worrying about some backseat driver later. I do everything I can to "preventative officiate" but if a T is needed, a T will be given. Z |
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There are many situations in the game where we decide to have a quicker whistle than normal. Usually it might be a fight or early in the game because the teams are rivals or the foul situation is out of whack. I hear guys all the time come here and use all kinds of judgments to stay out of trouble and this in my opinion is no different. Peace |
Rut, that cuts both ways. I'm white and there have been many times where I have been the only white person involved in the game, and other times because of the area I live, that I've officiated all African-American teams versus all white or Mexican-American teams.
My high school partner is African-American and last year we were working a tournament game at a local Air Force base. This is one of the times where I was the only white person. I had a call, went to report it and as I was moving back into position there comes a whistle from my partner. He had just T'd a player for suggesting my calls were being made for a "reason". We are a team out there, and if having my partner's back means having to explain something to an assignor or a coach, so be it, but I'm not going to just adjust my calls to handle the kid, hoping he gets the message. The player will get the message, and then we will move on with the game. |
I never told you how to handle these situations.
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Well all that is wonderful. And when you guys work your games you can handle those situations anyway you like. I never told you how to handle your games or what to call. I answered Dan's question to what I would do. When I am working and those situations are raised, I handle them the way I suggested and it works for me. Like Juulie says, I do not know the area you live. But around here, race is a constant backdrop to the games that are played. It is a constant topic of conversation with officials (in all the sports I work). It is something that we have to deal with regularly. If I T'd up every suggestion of a "reason" based on race, I would have more Ts called than the games I have worked in all my years I have been officiating. Peace |
Upon further review, after having a good night's sleep and also getting in touch with my feminine side, I'd still "T" the little sh*t up. Every time. No warning.
It's a racial comment and he's crapping on my partner(s). That's good enough for me. And also, it's very, very easy to explain to anyone too. You just tell them that he made a racial comment and also crapped on your partner(s). It shouldn't be up to you to defend your actions. Let the little sh*t that made the comment defend HIS actions instead. |
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it boils my blood anytime ANYBODY plays the race card. If players, coaches and fans would just understand, we really don't care who wins the game.
IMO, the worst situation, is when the all black team is in black jerseys and the all white team is in white. Seems like a recipe for disaster. My wife and I are white and we have fostered black children, it usually hurts when someone plays the race card either way. |
Race is not a card, it is a reality.
Chris, If you are going to raise children that are African-American, you have to understand that any mention of race is not an offensive issue. If it was, I would be offended anytime I walked out of the house. I am a younger looking person of color and when I officiate, players that are the same races as I am approach me in a way that signifies our race and culture. That not a card that is being played, that is the reality of the world we live in. The first thing people see is the color and shape of a person. That is the reality from the beginning of time up until right now. You are never going to eliminate all mentions of race, nor should you. Peace |
Rut, I'm with you, you'll never eliminate it all because some of the bad apples ruin it for the rest. 2 steps forwared, 1-3 steps back. My comments are an attempt to state that sometimes people get stereo-typed when others don't even know the real person. I'm not stating any new revelation and it can happen in any direction. This is reality in this world we live in but it would be nice if it didn't need to be brought into HS athletics, where sportsmanship "should" come first.
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I STILL WANT TO KNOW HOW DAN HANDLED THE ORIGINAL SITUATION!!
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It's a good discussion and it ain't over yet. I know that there is an inherent and dominant feminine gene for nosiness, but try and restrain yourself anyway. |
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