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Old Fri Nov 12, 2004, 10:28am
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National Federation Rules.
Offensive player with the ball in the front court in a "trapped by sideline" situation is guarded by a player who has one foot on an out of bounds line. Should the referee be counting for a possible 5 second violation?
Or should there be no count because the defender has a guarding position which is not legal because he/she has one foot on the line!!
I'm using the same logic as the defender who has one foot on the line and takes contact from the offensive player. This is to be called a "block" because the defender is not in a legal guarding position.
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Old Fri Nov 12, 2004, 10:53am
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there should be no count as there is no LGP which is a requirement for the closely guarded count.
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Old Fri Nov 12, 2004, 11:02am
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Oh Lord, I sense another 9 page thread starting.

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Old Fri Nov 12, 2004, 11:07am
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Oh Lord, I sense another 9 page thread starting.

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No need for 9 pages. cmathews has it nailed.
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Old Fri Nov 12, 2004, 11:08am
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i was feeling the same thing!!!! this one could be more though!!!
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Old Fri Nov 12, 2004, 11:37am
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let me help

let me see if i can help make this a little bit longer. Supose that B1 has already established a legal guarding position as per federation rules. after your count has begun A1 moves toward the sideline where B1's foot touches the OOB line. Do you continue the count in this situation since LGP had already been established?
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Old Fri Nov 12, 2004, 11:40am
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No, legal guarding position must be maintained, you do not have LGP with a foot out of bounds.
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Old Fri Nov 12, 2004, 01:57pm
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No, legal guarding position must be maintained, you do not have LGP with a foot out of bounds.
Even in Washington?

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Old Fri Nov 12, 2004, 02:26pm
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No, legal guarding position must be maintained, you do not have LGP with a foot out of bounds.
Even in Washington?

Sorry, couldn't help myself. I'll go sit in the corner.
It depends on whether the game is started with a jump ball or a coin flip. Move over Jurassic, there's room for two in that corner.

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Old Fri Nov 12, 2004, 02:41pm
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No, legal guarding position must be maintained, you do not have LGP with a foot out of bounds.
Even in Washington?

Sorry, couldn't help myself. I'll go sit in the corner.
It depends on whether the game is started with a jump ball or a coin flip. Move over Jurassic, there's room for two in that corner.

Z, If Chuck and Rocky were refereeing, we could start the game with a dwarf toss.
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Old Fri Nov 12, 2004, 02:44pm
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Z, If Chuck and Rocky were refereeing, we could start the game with a dwarf toss.
You actually made me laugh out loud. Stop it, my cubemates already think I'm weird enough.

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Old Fri Nov 12, 2004, 03:16pm
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Z, If Chuck and Rocky were refereeing, we could start the game with a dwarf toss.
You actually made me laugh out loud. Stop it, my cubemates already think I'm weird enough.

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is the civil liberties union going to allow such a thing as a dwarf toss....and will it be similar to the one used in the old bouncers competition where they tossed the little people for distance???
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Old Fri Nov 12, 2004, 03:27pm
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Z, If Chuck and Rocky were refereeing, we could start the game with a dwarf toss.
You actually made me laugh out loud. Stop it, my cubemates already think I'm weird enough.

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is the civil liberties union going to allow such a thing as a dwarf toss....and will it be similar to the one used in the old bouncers competition where they tossed the little people for distance???
Is it up to the ACLU or the NFHS? Does one take precedence over the other? Or would this be one of those approved state try-out experimental rules?

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Old Fri Nov 12, 2004, 03:31pm
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there should be no count as there is no LGP which is a requirement for the closely guarded count.
Yeah, but doessn't a "trap" usually consist of two defenders? One of them has to be inbounds. Keep counting.
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Old Fri Nov 12, 2004, 03:33pm
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there should be no count as there is no LGP which is a requirement for the closely guarded count.
Yeah, but doessn't a "trap" usually consist of two defenders? One of them has to be inbounds. Keep counting.
Chuck I agree, but the way the situation above is worded it implies one defender...if there are 2 and one is inbounds I completely agree...

on another note, is it time for someone to drag out the dwarf squirell picture yet??
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