Tipsy tipoffs

[dblref]

Originally posted by Back In The Saddle
I'm at a D1 game last year and this fan in the front row of the high dollar courtside padded chair seats with catered everything is standing, pointing, yelling, screaming and cursing this ref. He looks like he's just livid about a no call on some rough bumping down low.

During a break the ref goes over and talks to the guy. In about 20 seconds, the ref and this guy are laughing about something and the fan is seated and quiet the rest of the game.

I wish I knew what he said.

He told me to "zip it and sit down".

Seriously, I have on occassions exchanged comments with someone on the sidelines, particularly during warm-ups. You just have to be careful what is said. Sometimes a student/parent/fan will walk by and say something like...."Should be a good game tonight". I might just smile and nod or say "I agree". I see nothing wrong with this. If they tell me we suck, that's a different animal.

[ChrisSportsFan]

Originally posted by Back In The Saddle
I'm at a D1 game last year and this fan in the front row of the high dollar courtside padded chair seats with catered everything is standing, pointing, yelling, screaming and cursing this ref. He looks like he's just livid about a no call on some rough bumping down low.

During a break the ref goes over and talks to the guy. In about 20 seconds, the ref and this guy are laughing about something and the fan is seated and quiet the rest of the game.

I wish I knew what he said.

I have certainly done things like this at Rec level games or even turned and thanked the stands for their help with a 3 seconds call, nobody will make eye contact or admit they were yelling, and this usually helps them chill out.

The big one at HS games is when A contacts B and causes the ball to go out of bounds off B but you still give the ball to B with no fould called and the fans get excited. I will usually tell player from A, and if fans hear it then so be it, "either take the foul or give them the ball". Once fans realize your thoughts behind that call, you can see their light bulb turn on.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally posted by ChrisSportsFan
The big one at HS games is when A contacts B and causes the ball to go out of bounds off B but you still give the ball to B with no fould called

You've got to be kidding.

[OverAndBack]

I've had fans point out an untied shoelace before, so I stopped the clock for the player bringing up the ball (well in their own end, no pressure) to tie the shoe as a safety measure (on a fast break or something I'd wait until the play had run its course) and then said a quick "Thank you" to whoever said it.

Sometimes a fan will ask you some innocuous question that you can answer very quickly without getting into a conversation. But I focus too much on the game because I'm still new at this, and I can't let myself get distracted.

If a guy I was working with had been drinking? Hooh-boy. That's a tough one. If it was obvious, I'd pull him aside and try to diplomatically get him out of there. Or hope that game management did it. Even if it left me on an island (if it was a 2-man game).

[rockyroad]

Originally posted by gordon30307

No never. It takes a long time and hard work to get to that level. College Officials are vey well paid. They are evaluated by observers for post season assignments etc. It just wouldn't look good if they weren't totally focused on the game. Talking to spectators is not part of the job.
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Well, like Chuck said, I'm not at the top of any collegiate group but I do officiate the occasional NCAA game, and I certainly banter with fans during pre-game warm-ups every now and then...not sure what part of the country you're in, but it doesn't sound like a very fun place to be an official.

[icallfouls]

In some situations it can be an asset to have a fan or two "on your side." We all know there are some tough gyms to work in every area.

I had a game a few years back in a pretty tough gym during a good rivalry match up. It was easy to tell that the crowd was into it. Just before tip off I hear, nice hair ref (I am folically impaired). I replied, "yeah, like I haven't heard that one before." The small group of football players from where the comment came got a pretty good laugh out of it.

Later when the game was still in doubt and big call didn't go their way, the rest of the crowd was getting on my partner, the group of football players took up for him. Not sure if my little comment mattered that much, but it might have bought us the benefit of the doubt.

[OverAndBack]

I would think anything that makes people think you're human is a good thing, because you will get that benefit of the doubt sometimes.

I mean, they know you're a human being, but it doesn't hurt to remind them of that from time to time. I think people appreciate that.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally posted by icallfouls

Later when the game was still in doubt and big call didn't go their way, the rest of the crowd was getting on my partner, the group of football players took up for him. Not sure if my little comment mattered that much, but it might have bought us the benefit of the doubt.

The "benefit of the doubt" from whom - the crowd? Who cares? Officiating isn't a popularity contest. Every time I make a call and someone in the crowd boos, I just figure there's another ignorant person in the gym (besides the obvious ones, that is).

Just repeat my motto in my signature below over and over to yourself until it sinks in.

[PS2Man]

Originally posted by ChrisSportsFan
The big one at HS games is when A contacts B and causes the ball to go out of bounds off B but you still give the ball to B with no fould called and the fans get excited. I will usually tell player from A, and if fans hear it then so be it, "either take the foul or give them the ball". Once fans realize your thoughts behind that call, you can see their light bulb turn on.

I might not call a foul if the ball when off the player that possibly fouled. But I never just give the back to a team just because I decided not to call a foul. To me that is just taking things too far.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally posted by PS2Man
I might not call a foul if the ball when off the player that possibly fouled. But I never just give the back to a team just because I decided not to call a foul. To me that is just taking things too far.

Plus - it's against the rules.