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I have been asked to work a couple of preseason scrimmages --high school varsity. The AD says he wants to pay a half fee, even though he paid full fee last year. He said he was going to talk to other ADs in the league to see what they do, but someone must have spoken to him -- hence the change.
My assignor just shrugs when I ask. He says it is up to each team. Are there any set "rules" in your area/association for getting paid for scrimmages? Last year, I think we had two or three 20-minute stopped time periods with the score cleared after each period. Otherwise, we play under "game conditions" (except there are few people in the stands.) 
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We don't get paid for scrimmages
The schools pay the chapter for scrimmages. We use the time to perform in front of coaches and get ready for the season. The money they pay the chapter goes for training fees and end of season activities.
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Mon Oct 18, 2004, 02:41pm
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Schools only pay $25 for a 2 hour scrimmage in my area. We put all scrimmage money in the association General Fund and sped it on training.
So we don't receive anything for scrimmages.
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Mon Oct 18, 2004, 03:38pm
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In Southern Wisconsin, it varies. Some pay JV Fee ($35), some pay varsity fee ($55), some don't pay. Our association is even working a 4 school (V,JV,F) girls scrimmage for no pay. We get the gym two hours before the scrimmage to run a clinic. That is our pay.
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Mon Oct 18, 2004, 03:41pm
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Around here, HS scrimmages are donated. College scrimmages pay $100 for all the officials to split between them.
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Mon Oct 18, 2004, 04:56pm
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Just last week.
I have done scrimmages that pay and scrimmages that do not. I think you have to decide what is OK for you. How many games are you doing and what levels? How many officials are present? I would try to get as much as possible, but at the same time I have done them for nothing (not necessarily my choice). As a matter of fact I attended a college camp last week (on Columbus Day) and traveled over and hour from my house and was not paid anything. But it was a required meeting for an assignor and that was the best time. Sometimes you have to give back for all the money you make during and after the basketball season.
Peace
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Mon Oct 18, 2004, 05:43pm
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Also keep in mind that many insurance plans (not personal medical, but referee liability insurance) do not cover you for scrimmages.
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Mon Oct 18, 2004, 07:13pm
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Scrimmages in Portland are unpaid.
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Mon Oct 18, 2004, 08:05pm
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In my area, a normal game fee is given to the officials. Usually in a situation like this, it is given by cash on the spot rather than the association sending a bill for the game.
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Tue Oct 19, 2004, 06:22am
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The association "requires" each official to work 4 scrimmages -- some of us work more and some work less. The scrimmages also allow JV officials to maybe work a varsity scrimmage.
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