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All double fouls are resumed by giving the ball back to the team in control. In this case, since Team B will have control after A4's try is successful, you count the basket and award the ball to Team B for a throw-in anywhere along the endline.
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Now to tweak this a bit, NFHS rules, A1 is in the act of shooting but hasn't released the ball yet. A2 and B2 are involved in a double foul situation. Is the ball dead immediately or does continuous motion apply??
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6.7 Comment "Continuous motion is of significance only when there is a personal or technical foul by B after the trying or tapping motion by A1 is started and before the ball is in flight." However, if the ball IS in flight when a double foul occurs, it does NOT cause the ball to become dead. If the try is successful, the goal is scored and play is resumed with an AP throw-in from the OOB spot nearest the double foul. See 4.19.7 Sit C. [Edited by Nevadaref on Oct 12th, 2004 at 07:09 AM] |
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A.R. 26. A1 shoots and while the ball is in the air, the shot-clock horn sounds to indicate the end of the shot clock period. While the ball is in the air, the official calls a double foul on A2 and B2. (a) The try is successful; RULING: The official shall wait to see what happens to the try. The ball does not become dead until the try in flight ends. In (a) the goal shall count, the alternating-possession arrow shall be used to determine which team gains possession of the ball for a throw-in nearest to the spot where the double foul occurred. The shot clock shall be reset. |
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A.R. 26. A1 shoots and while the ball is in the air, the shot-clock horn sounds to indicate the end of the shot clock period. While the ball is in the air, the official calls a double foul on A2 and B2. (a) The try is successful; (b) the try is unsuccessful but hits the ring/flange; or (c) the try is unsuccessful and does not hit the ring/flange. RULING: The official shall wait to see what happens to the try. The ball does not become dead until the try in flight ends. In (a) the goal shall count, the alternating-possession arrow shall be used to deter-mine which team gains possession of the ball for a throw-in nearest to the spot where the double foul occurred. The shot clock shall be reset. In (b) the alternating-possession arrow shall be used as in (a) and the shot clock shall be reset. In (c) the alternating-pos-session arrow shall be used and the shot clock shall be reset even though a shot-clock violation occurred. The double foul takes precedence and the ball shall be awarded for a throw-in with the use of the alternating-possession arrow. |
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i have to agree with jim
continuous motion is used if you have a personal or technical, so it would be used if you have a double personal too!
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In the first case, the correct answer was to give the ball to B. In the second case, the correct answer was to go to the arrow. I didn't understand why there was a difference and we talked it out a little. Maybe somebody can find the thread; I looked last night and couldn't find it. In any case, this year, ALL double fouls go back to the team in control. So whether it's double personals or double Ts, you'd give the ball to the non-scoring team and let them run the endline.
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Well, I may have to eat some crow on this one. I just went to the NCAA site and looked at the '05 rulebook (I don't get mine til Sunday). I looked through Rule 10 and the Summary of Penalties. Double Ts are still listed as going to the POI. I thought for sure that I had read that they were changing that to be the same as double personals.
And that makes me question my interpretation of the original play. Maybe I had it backwards: go to the arrow for personals and give possession after the Ts. Bob? [Edited by ChuckElias on Oct 12th, 2004 at 10:38 AM]
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Chuck, I just downloaded the 2005 NCAA rule book (thanks for letting me know it's up on the web site!). They haven't changed the approved ruling that I cited above, which clearly indicates that in the case of a double personal foul with the ball in flight, you go to the arrow. (The numbering has changed---in the 2005 book, it is now A.R. 25 in Rule 10-24, page BR-154.) It doesn't matter whether the try is successful or not. The reasoning, I believe, is that there is no team control at the time when the fouls occur, which is during the try.
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