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Old Sun Oct 10, 2004, 10:09pm
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True or false--
When the ball is bounced to the free thrower, it is at his or her disposal when released by the official.

My thinking is the ball has to be in the hands of the free thrower to be considered at their disposal so false would be the answer. But after reading 8-1 I'm not sure.

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Old Sun Oct 10, 2004, 10:25pm
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True or false--
When the ball is bounced to the free thrower, it is at his or her disposal when released by the official.

My thinking is the ball has to be in the hands of the free thrower to be considered at their disposal so false would be the answer. But after reading 8-1 I'm not sure.

Thanks for the help.
From 8.1.1 RULING: ...the ball becomes live when it is caught by the free thrower.

Imagine if you will, a couple of not so far fetched situations. The administering official goes to bounce the ball to the thrower, but it squirts out of his hands and bounces slowly toward the thrower, taking 3-4 seconds to get there. Or, the official makes a less than ideal bounce pass to the thrower and the thrower fumbles the lame pass. It takes the thrower a couple of seconds to get the ball under control. Is it fair, in either case, to be counting? No. The ten second count can only logically begin when the thrower catches it (ignoring for now the possibility of the official placing the ball on the floor).


Also, from 4-4-7 A ball is at the disposal of a player when it is: b. caught by a player after it is bounced to him/her.

[Edited by Back In The Saddle on Oct 10th, 2004 at 11:30 PM]
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The ten second count can only logically begin when the thrower catches it (ignoring for now the possibility of the official placing the ball on the floor).

I think we all know you mean "five second" count.
(If we all know it, why did I post it).
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Old Mon Oct 11, 2004, 09:16am
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The ten second count can only logically begin when the thrower catches it (ignoring for now the possibility of the official placing the ball on the floor).

I think we all know you mean "five second" count.
(If we all know it, why did I post it).
The administering official on a FT can use the resumption-of-play procedure and CAN place the ball on the floor in the circle and will start a 10-second count- not a 5-second count- if the FTer isn't in the circle. NFHS rules 8-1-2 and 8-4.

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The ten second count can only logically begin when the thrower catches it (ignoring for now the possibility of the official placing the ball on the floor).

I think we all know you mean "five second" count.
(If we all know it, why did I post it).
For a throw in, you would be correct. For a free-throw, which was the original question, it's a ten second count.
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