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Old Fri Jan 19, 2001, 02:56pm
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AAAAA... When I left Indiana two years ago it was still two man.

Except for a few pockets, I don't think they will ever leave the dark ages.
Thank goodness for North Carolina. Hope glimmers....
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Old Fri Jan 19, 2001, 03:28pm
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In our association in Portland, Oregon, there are specific rules about who does what if someone shows up late. I stayed over once to do a JV since the official didn't show. He came in right at the end of the first quarter. He didn't have a cell phone and was caught in traffic. He told me the rule was I could stay and do the whole game if I wanted, or I could let him take over. At the Varsity level, the switch part way through would have to be approved by the coaches. If I stay, I get the money, and he's outta luck -- except that with a good excuse he won't get fined. Our commissioner has very harsh fines set up for no-shows. At least this is how the rules have been explained to me.

On the subject of 3-"whistle" in Oregon all high school ball is 2-whistle right up to the State Championships. Period. It is nice for a beginner to only have one system to have to learn for a while, but I know in those big games, calls get missed and it's a big job for the two guys or gals who do it. The pay is better, though.
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Old Fri Jan 19, 2001, 07:02pm
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If hecould call 911 on his cell, why not the school?
There was nobody in the school office at 8 pm.
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Old Sun Jan 21, 2001, 02:49pm
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WI is two-"man"... All the way

I do not hear any talk of going to 3-man.... From my inderstanding, the state board is too Tight ($$$$)
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Old Sun Jan 21, 2001, 03:09pm
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Rainmaker, I like your term better: 2-

Also... I agree... one system is tough enough to master, but I am willing to try 3-"whistle" (with supportive partners!)

In my view, late officials, especially 3rd quarter, should not be "stepping in", unless the replacement is that "pathetic". Any sensible AD (game management) should be able to handle this.

Mark Padgett's situation... Sounds like all worked out well... I am certian the late arriving official would not have been focused on the game anyway. It is also nice to see that he did the right thing by staying at the accident scene until he took care of that incident first.

Brian: Unfortunately, I have, in the past called after school hours, the number on the contract and been transferred to voice mail. But it is a nice thought that may work in some incidents. Good advice.
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Old Sun Jan 21, 2001, 07:16pm
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I do not hear any talk of going to 3-man.... From my inderstanding, the state board is too Tight ($$$$)
willie,
I heard of a 3-man crew that came U.P. from WI to do a college came, and that they had some interesting mechanics.
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Old Sun Jan 21, 2001, 08:07pm
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In our association, once the replacement official takes the floor, it's his game. No if's, and's or but's.

All varsity girls and boys games in NC are officiated by 3 officials. In fact, it's against state policy to work a varsity game with only two. We have done it on a rare few occasions when #3 didn't show. Our association also uses 3 man for JV boys games and for JV girls when part of a doubleheader with the boys. When we get to a point that we have enough officials, we will work all JV games with 3 man.

I know there are several other states in the Southeast that work 3 man, although I don't know if it's statewide. GA, TN, SC, FL, TX, and VA work 3 man in certain areas. Is there another state besides NC that requires all varsity games to have 3 officials?
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