NBA lane violations

[oc]

Originally posted by Nu1
A jump stop wouldn't necessarily have to be illegal. Jump stops can easily occur as a dribble is ending. Which means a pivot foot was never established.

The jump stop that coaches refer to and the ones refs refer to are different. In the situation you described (a coaches jump stop) either foot can be a pivot foot. When an official uses the term they mean a situation where neither foot can be a pivot foot. 4.43.2.b.2 and 4.43.4

[oc]

Originally posted by BktBallRef
Did anyone see the traveling violation that Steve Javie called on Gary Payton in the 2nd half? Payton picked up his dribble in the BC. With no one to pass to, he stepped, picked up his pivot but didn't return it to the floor. Javie whistled the travel.

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Looked good to me as well. In fact I rewound it at the time and checked it a few times. What surpised me was nobody (player, coach, announcer) thought the call was strange. Wonder if the refs discussed that one later in a post game discusion.
--Ok the fact that the announcers ignored it didn't surprise me but I was thought Phil Jackson might say something.

[oc]

Originally posted by ChuckElias
The NBA rule is different. They allow players outside the 3-point arc to enter the lane on the release of the FT, just as the players along the lane are allowed to enter on the release.

In HS and NCAA, the players outside the 3-point arc must wait for the ball to hit the rim or backboard before breaking the plane of the arc.

If Prince was crossing the 3-point arc before the FT was released, that should've been a delayed violation. But it's certainly possible that they ignore it unless the player gets the rebound. I can't address that.

Now in the 4th quarter of game 4 they do call the lane violation in what looked to me like the same situation--and the violater was not the one rebounding the ball. I know these are the best refs in the world, but these calls seem inconsistent. I am now more curious to know if the NBA rule is different or did someone break down the game tape with the refs and discuss that these calls are being missed.

[ChuckElias]

Originally posted by oc

I am now more curious to know if the NBA rule is different

[oc]

Originally posted by ChuckElias

I understand that the rule is different about entering on the release not when it hits the room. I am curious if there are other differences that would explain what looked like lane violations not being called in game 1 and 2.
As you put in your first post:
"If Prince was crossing the 3-point arc before the FT was released, that should've been a delayed violation. But it's certainly possible that they ignore it unless the player gets the rebound. I can't address that."

Does anyone know?

[bob jenkins]

Originally posted by Nu1
A jump stop wouldn't necessarily have to be illegal. Jump stops can easily occur as a dribble is ending. Which means a pivot foot was never established.

Lotto said jump SHOTS would be illegal, not jump stops.

[Lotto]

Originally posted by Nu1

A jump stop wouldn't necessarily have to be illegal. Jump stops can easily occur as a dribble is ending. Which means a pivot foot was never established.

Never said anything about a jump stop. I was talking about a jump shot. Or maybe a pump shop? Or some lump pots? Or something like that, anyway.

[Nu1]

Oops. I read it wrong. Add it to my list of errors.
And now I fully understand your point. Thanks.