Irregularity or Flagrant

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee

Cingram, I think that I need to clarify one thing. The live ball/dead ball criteria to differentiate between flagrant personal and technical fouls is a fairly accurate rule of thumb, but there are exceptions however. The most common one is a player or coach swearing at another player or an official during a live ball. That one is a flagrant technical foul; it can't be a flagrant personal foul because there was no contact involved. Personally, I don't think that it's a biggie if you do happen to call one the other. The result is the same- disqualification plus 2 shots & the ball to the non-offending team.

As for the signal for a flagrant foul, there are several different schools of thought. The "baseball heave-ho" signal is used a lot, as is just pointing to the dressing room. Some trainers advocate making no gesture at all, but simply tell the offender that he's outa there.I guess that it's just personal preference, unless whoever's assigning you wants it done a particular way.[/B]

Thanks JR.

In my 8 years of reffing (4 with a board) I've only tossed one person - and that was 5 years ago.

I'd be kinda interesting trying to give a flagrant personal foul to a coach...

Frankly does anyone see why there is a flagrant personal foul? If it is flagrant why not make it a flagrant technical? They are getting the boot anyways because of what they did.