| ref18 |
Sun May 23, 2004 11:07pm |
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Originally posted by RookieDude
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Originally posted by ref18
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Originally posted by RookieDude
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Originally posted by Nevadaref
I had a game two weekends ago that started out 50-0, was 54-4 at the half, went to 98-4 (at which time my partner called a T against a player from the team with 4), and finished 106-21.
This was a BOYS game! I'd never seen anything like it.
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Just curious...Nevadaref, what was the T for?
I gotta tell ya...around here, there is an unwritten rule.
If a team is getting blown out, i.e. 98-4, the team whith 4 can do no wrong.
Of course we would not allow unsporting behavior...and, short of picking the ball up and running down the court, there wouldn't be to many close calls go against the very out matched team.
And you coaches that want to press with a 94 point lead...I tend to see a lot of contact on the steals.
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Never referee the score, always referee the game. I've ejected a coach when his team was down by 30-40 pts. He expected us to give his team a break because they were loosing, but his team was hacking away at the other team. The score shouldn't influence your calls.
And in relation to my last post, i misunderstood the earlier posts. I thought the supervisor was shouting at the officials.
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ref18...if your philosophy and game mangement include calling a game that is tight the same way you would call a game with a 94pt blow-out...then have at it. No wonder you had to eject the Coach...he was probably steaming because you called that "little" hack, or that 3 seconds in the key call, or maybe you got to 6 on a closely guarded play, or maybe the team losing by 40 freaking points had a guard slide his foot a little on a slippery floor.
While my handle here is "RookieDude" (kind of a joke when I first started here)...I have officiated Basketball for over 15 years, been to numerous district and regional tournaments and been selected to officiate 3 State Tournaments. (Actually did 2 with varying degrees of success) Last year I had the number 1 rating by the Coaches that we serve in our association...Was rated number 4 out of 80 officials by my peers, for an overall rating of 2 (3 of us tied for 2nd) in my association. [Tri-Cities Boys Officials Association, in Washington State]
Forgive me for giving a resume...but, when someone (with probably much less experience) tells me how to officiate a game, or how to manage a game it kinda rubs me wrong.
I will be the first to admit that I do not have the rule book memorized...and there are many very sharp and knowledgeable officials concerning rules on this forum...but, when you start telling a Veteran official what kind of philosophy to have WATCH OUT!
i.e. Would you tell Dave Libby (NCAA Final Four Official) that a foul in the first quarter is a foul in the 4th quarter?
Maybe you would...and that's fine...but he would tell you different. (And he stated just that at a clinic I attended years ago...he said have the courage NOT to call it)
Here's a news flash ref18...not all officials officiate the same...we have different styles...we have different ways of handling situations, depending on our personalities.
Watch Veterans...pick out what you like...toss what you don't! Come up with your own style, and maybe just maybe it will be one that works for you while giving the kids a well managed game.
Whew! There will be some here that agree with me...and some here that do not. That's fine...like I said...we all have our own philosophies, and it's fun to read the different points of view.
Sorry for coming off as a "Big Timer"...but maybe when you say "NEVER" do something...qualify it with IMO.
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Just for clarifciation, the foul was a big-time hold that caused a great disadvantage to the shooter. Usually when a team is loosing, they don't get that agressive, but if they do, I'm gonna call it before it gets out of hand. Because i'm there to ensure the safety of the players, and how safe would the game be if i let the loosing team get away with every foul?? And maybe i went a bit overboard with never, there are different solutions for different situations.
[Edited by ref18 on May 24th, 2004 at 12:10 AM] |
