Pick and Roll Follow Up, Posting Up

[ryan330i]

This and following quotes originally posted by Jurassic Referee

No,no,no. I was the first to say that.

I reread every post and you didn’t say it first. You said in many ways that I know nothing about the rules, however that is not the same as implying I don’t play basketball or know how to block someone out.

You don't have any clue at all as to what the pertinent rules say, why those pertinent rules were enacted, and the philosophy used to actually call those rules.

True. Any statements I have made in the verbiage of “That’s not a foul” aren’t referring to rulebook, but to how games are called, which you and others acknowledge is not in perfect alignment.

You've never read a rulebook in your life.

False. I read the official rules of Bocce ball just last summer. Despite never having read an official basketball rulebook, I am quite clear what the rules of the game are, enough to play a game with enjoyment.

You're basing your "opinion" on your many years of experience sitting on your a$$ in your LaZBoy watching games.

False. I have played basketball most of my life and enjoy it still (at 30). I was never allowed to play football, and didn’t enjoy baseball. I played on school teams up to J-V, and then transferred to a much larger high school. In college I played on my fraternity’s team in Intramurals. I have also played in various church leagues, and Gus Macker style tournaments. Currently I play twice weekly with friends and with a group at work (no refs obviously)

I dislike your rude characterizations. It diminishes your credibility and integrity. I thought referees were better than normal at leaving personal stuff aside in disputes? I guess not. Well then, your mom is fat, if not dead, and you are old.

Every single official that has responded to you so far in this thread has told you that "displacing/upsetting/moving" (your words, fanboy, and they couldn't be more exact) an opponent is a foul.

To which I have repeatedly replied “I’ll submit to multiple ruling that what I am describing must be a foul, but that means I am not describing it properly”

You've also been told several times that, even though it is a foul, it may not be called all the time.

Hmm… Do I even care what the rulebook says about “it”, if “it” is not called in accordance with the rulebook? No.

Never mind the fact that I have not agreed as to the definition of what “it” is.

The only person having a "comprehension" problem in this thread is YOU. You only seem to hear what you want to hear.

I comprehend fine. Let me distill my perspective down to a simple little story. Now the referee in this story does not represent one particular person, but really just my experience:

Me: To Thing-a-ma-jig properly, you do this.
Ref: That is a foul.
Me: When I thing-a-ma-jig, I don’t get called, nor do I see it called.
Ref: That is a foul.
Me: OK, then I must be describing what happens wrongly because it isn’t called.
Ref: You described it wrong, and it is a foul.
Me: Wait, what I described…improperly, or what I’m trying to describe is a foul?
Ref: Yes.
Ref: And you described it improperly because you don’t understand basketball rules.
Ref: And you are a lazy a$$ and have never touched a basketball.
Me: Well, whatever. I know how to block out and it’s never called a foul, and there is contact. I’m losing something in the translation. And you are old.
Ref: It’s not called all the time.
Me: !?
Ref: You don’t comprehend.



I guess not.

[Edited by ryan330i on Apr 16th, 2004 at 08:51 PM]