was going to the arrow correct

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally posted by SamIAm
I am with you on this one Mark. If the L really was concerned with getting it right, what about the lane violation or foul that L didn't see because he was looking up in the air?

I had a partner make some bad calls (from my vantage point), I quickly blew my whistle and announced that is not what happened and corrected his calls. He tried to do the same to me, I re-corrected him and made sure my ruling was applied. (This would look as stupid as it sounds, even if you tried to do it politely.)

My point is, for game management and to not make a simple call difficult, ignore your difference of opinion.
Same as you would if another official called traveling, don't butt in and say "no he didn't".

Okay, first of all, the poster said nothing about where the L was looking. That was another poster making an assumption. Second, the poster said nothing about how the correction was handled. And third, I'm not talking about over-ruling your partner. Just providing him with additional information to help him get it right.

As L we've got to know when the ball hits the rim on a free-throw, otherwise how could we call lane violations? If the L knows it hit the rim, it's almost certain that other people know as well.

So...if I'm the L and I KNOW that the ball hit the rim, I'm going to the T and I'm going to give him the information I have and the opportunity to get it right. If he agrees, then he'll change the call (and we'll go to the arrow in this sit.). What I'm not going to do is announce to the entire gym that my partner was wrong and we're doing it my way.

I had one of these just last week. I'm T and it appeared that the free-throw missed the rim. However, it missed to the far side, thus obscuring my view just a little, and was so close to the rim that I can't be 100% certain. But, I did not see it deflect at all or hear it hit the rim, so I blew it down. My partner either concurred, did not know, or swallowed his whistle (I don't know which, I never asked). But if he KNEW that I was wrong and came to me, I would have welcomed his information and changed my call.

Of course, there are probably times when one should do as nine01c suggests and just swallow the whistle. One good reason would be if you know you're working with a partner who believes that his "rulings" are more important than getting it right. Or one that has forgotten that proper mechanics are merely a tool to give us the best chance of getting it right, and that they have no other point, and that perfectly executed mechanics can never guarantee right calls. Or that deviating from mechanics because of actual knowledge constitutes not trusting your partner. Such a partner would appear to be more interested in his own views and opinions than in getting it right, and probably should not be trusted.

Just one question, if we're not there, working as a team to get it as right as we can, why are we there?

[Edited by Back In The Saddle on Feb 17th, 2004 at 11:09 AM]