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Old Tue Feb 17, 2004, 04:28pm
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Last Friday night, A1 took a shot from 3 point territory. He shot an airball, and as the ball came down, it hit A2 (who was getting into rebounding position) on the back of the head, then went OOB. A2 was shaken up a little so we called an injury timeout.

My partner came over to me and asked me if the shot would have counted if it had gone in off A2's head. I told him yes - but it would not count for three points, since the shot ended when it hit the kid's head.

I said that since A2 had not taken the shot, it was only a two.

He smiled and said, "I dunno. It looks like he took quite a shot to me."
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Old Tue Feb 17, 2004, 04:34pm
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I did'nt think a basket would count unless it is part of an attempt. Bouncing of a head is not an attempt?
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Old Tue Feb 17, 2004, 04:39pm
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I did'nt think a basket would count unless it is part of an attempt.
Oops! Think again. Any time a live ball goes through the basket, it counts. With two exceptions, that I can think of.
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Old Tue Feb 17, 2004, 04:41pm
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I did'nt think a basket would count unless it is part of an attempt. Bouncing of a head is not an attempt?
A goal is made when a live ball (which this was) enters the basket from above and remains in or passes through.

The 2 exceptions are a player control foul, or a throw -in which is not touched and enters the basket.

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Old Tue Feb 17, 2004, 04:47pm
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Thanks for the info.

Can a player bounce the ball to make it go into the hoop???
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Old Tue Feb 17, 2004, 04:53pm
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I did'nt think a basket would count unless it is part of an attempt.
Oops! Think again. Any time a live ball goes through the basket, it counts. With two exceptions, that I can think of.
Only one under ncaam, correct?

BTW, I happened to bump into this in my internet travels.

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Old Tue Feb 17, 2004, 04:55pm
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Thanks for the info.

Can a player bounce the ball to make it go into the hoop???
Yes, except for a free throw. (The ball becomes dead when it hits the floor.)

Technically, there is one other exception, a correctable wrongly awarded free throw.
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Old Tue Feb 17, 2004, 04:59pm
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Thanks for the info.

Can a player bounce the ball to make it go into the hoop???
The ball went in, didn't it???

Only if the ball was bounced from beyond the three point it would only count as 2.
See Rule 5.2.1
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Old Tue Feb 17, 2004, 05:08pm
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Has anyone seen this happen?
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Old Tue Feb 17, 2004, 05:45pm
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Saw one but it didn't count. Kid throws up a half court shot at the buzzer, ball hits the top of the backboard, bounces off back toward half court, hits a light on the ceiling and bounces back toward the basket, hits the floor just past the free throw line, bounces up and in, nothing but net.
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Old Tue Feb 17, 2004, 05:51pm
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Saw one but it didn't count. Kid throws up a half court shot at the buzzer, ball hits the top of the backboard, bounces off back toward half court, hits a light on the ceiling and bounces back toward the basket, hits the floor just past the free throw line, bounces up and in, nothing but net.
WOW! Fans probably wanted to beat up the ref for calling it no good!
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Old Tue Feb 17, 2004, 05:52pm
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How about the ball that goes through the net from below, above the rim and then comes back down through the top? I seem to remember that being disallowed as well.
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Old Tue Feb 17, 2004, 05:54pm
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How about the ball that goes through the net from below, above the rim and then comes back down through the top? I seem to remember that being disallowed as well.
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A goal is made when a live ball (which this was) enters the basket FROM ABOVE and remains in or passes through.
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Old Tue Feb 17, 2004, 06:29pm
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How about the ball that goes through the net from below, above the rim and then comes back down through the top? I seem to remember that being disallowed as well.
See earlier post:

A goal is made when a live ball (which this was) enters the basket FROM ABOVE and remains in or passes through.
NFHS 9-4 covers this as well: "A player shall not...cause [the ball] to enter and pass through the basket from below."

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Old Tue Feb 17, 2004, 11:19pm
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I said in another thread that I don't have to worry much about offensive BI, but I'm wondering if it wouldn't be another instance of a live ball passing through but not counting as a basket. COuld it happen?
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