How would you handle this?

[Ref in PA]

I get calls from several people in my chapter because they know I communicate with refs all over the country. There were two incidents this past week and I was asked to post them and solicite opinions from the forum.

1. Boys Varsity, close game until about :55 left in the 4th when 4 technicals were given to players on Team B (the visitors) with one player being disqualified. Team A now has a 10 point lead and the ball. When play is resumed, Team B stands in backcourt, next to their bench. Team A inbounds and holds the ball until the time runs off the clock. I was assured that the game was "officiated well" although the ending sounds suspect to me. Coach B kept his players close because he said he did not want them to get hurt. I was asked if I would assess another "T" to make Team B play? Personally, I said no, I would not assess another "T" to Team B.

2. Girls Varsity, Team A is home and down by 12 points with 1:30 in the 4th. Team A is playoff bound regardless of the outcome of the game and is playing a non-conference rival game. Team A is on defense and Team B is stalling. On a given signal, all five players of Team A fall to the floor and begin "wiggling like worms." Coach of Team A laughs. I was asked if I would "T" and if so, all 5 girls? the head coach? I said no, but, if Team A were ahead, I would interpret this as taunting and would probably "T" all 5 girls.

Your thoughts? Both games were regular season games as the the playoffs will begin next week.

[NCAAREF]

I think you handled it well. Seeing the boys game ended with a bang, I see no problem in letting the clock run out and assuring no further issues. As far as the girls games go, same thing. If A wants to fall on the floor and wriggle like worms, who cares. This is supposed to be a game...fun...let the kids have some. I don't see how it would be taunting. Just my opinion.

[zebraman]

1) All five B players are on the floor. What are they doing that is illegal? There is no rule forcing B to "play.'

2) I would laugh. No T. If we're lucky, maybe Team A's Athletic Director will tell his coach to teach basketball instead of worm farming.

Z

[rainmaker]

Originally posted by Ref in PA
all five players of Team A fall to the floor and begin "wiggling like worms."

I hope the B team players passed the ball around, worked their way into the key, and got an easy 2. That's the best response to this kind of childish tantrum.

[BigJoe]

Zebraman,

Check out rule 10-5b. If they refuse to inbounds a made basket, this would definitely apply. But I think I would just let the game clock run and call it a night.

You might also apply 2-5-4 if this happened earlier in the game.

I couldn't find it right off hand, but I remember the words "travesty of the game" in the book, but couldn't locate it right away.

Just some things to think about. Doesn't necessarily apply here, but could.

[zebraman]

BigJoe,

I assume you mean rule 10-1-5B (there is no rule 10-5b). However, that has to do with a team preventing the ball from being live or from being put in play. That isn't the case here so it doesn't apply. A has the ball and all of Team B's players are on the floor. There is no way to apply 10-1-5B to this.

2-5-4? First of all, this wouldn't happen earlier in the game. It happened because there was less than a minute left and the coach just wanted to get out of there without the game becoming even more of a fiasco than it sounds like it became. Let the coach do that!

Z

[Andy]

I will agree with the rest of the respondants. Neither situation warrants any type of action from the officials.

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