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Player A1 makes a spectacular play. He gets a steal and a break away...as he gets to his basket, he throws the ball off the backboard, catches it mid-air and throws down a reverse dunk. The crowd goes crazy! He has a cell phone hidden under one of the chairs ... he grabs it and calls his mom in celebration. What is the call?
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Wed Feb 04, 2004, 07:14am
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As in, Can you hear me, now?
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Wed Feb 04, 2004, 09:19am
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Flagrant T Snaq? I don't know about that. I would probably laugh, T him up for leaving the court, give him two seconds to put down the phone, and play on. If he says he is on hold, T him again and tell him he has time now to stay on the phone. I hope this is a joke of a situation. I can't imagine seeing this happen up in the sticks where I live.
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Wed Feb 04, 2004, 09:43am
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Wed Feb 04, 2004, 09:48am
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This isn't just unsportsmanlike conduct, it's taunting pure and simple. I might wait long enough to see if his opponents can score quickly due to his extracurricular activities before I blow the whistle. But it's taunting, and a flagrant T. It's a no-brainer to me.
I don't see it happening, either. Basically, most coaches around here wouldn't mind the flagrant in this case, as he'd most likely be on the bench after than anyway.
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Wed Feb 04, 2004, 09:50am
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A 30K fine for those guys is like 5 bucks for us. I don't know if that is a valid comparison. I just don't think that any of us would think Flagrant that fast. Maybe after the fact we might say hey, that could of or should have been Flagrant. This is something that none of us would EVER expect to happen in a game we are officiating.
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Wed Feb 04, 2004, 09:59am
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T him and get on with it. If his coach is smart, that kid is on the bech anyway. But other types of taunting are worse than this (IMO) and don't merit a flagrant. But definitely whack him.
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Wed Feb 04, 2004, 10:05am
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T him for being an idiot.
I do think it's a little bit different than the football situation, where it wa really clear that the offending player was saying "The defense is just phoning it in", and the taunt was so extreme you cold even taste it over the TV. In the example cited for basketball, you've got one talented show-off, continuing to show off. It's poor taste, it's pure ME, and it's really, really STUPID. However, I don't know that is is as clearly demeaning to the other team as the football player's action.
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Wed Feb 04, 2004, 10:11am
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CYO,
I think it is as demeaning, more so in basketball. Action is continuing, and he's telling the other team he doesn't need to play defense. "You guys go ahead without me, I've got time for a phone call."
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Wed Feb 04, 2004, 10:26am
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