personal foul on player, then given a techniacl

[bob jenkins]

Originally posted by gwockenfuss

My partner and I talked about it, and he even said it happen so fast that after the 2nd shot of the T, the other team took the ball out, since there was 3 seconds left on the clock.

How could it "happen so fast?" There shouldn't have been an opponent within about 21 feet of the ball when the second shot for the T went through the basket.

[gwockenfuss]

Originally posted by bob jenkins

How could it "happen so fast?" There shouldn't have been an opponent within about 21 feet of the ball when the second shot for the T went through the basket.

Bottom Line, we messed up.

[gwockenfuss]

Originally posted by TXMATTHEW05

It's around the same definition as "reaching in."

I was told by a veteran offical that there is no
1. Over the back call- should be Push from behind- True

2. How about the reach in call? I didn't think it was that , but a (hand check, or illegal use of the hands)

let me know

[Adam]

There is no "illegal use of the hands" either. Chances are, when someone wants a reach, it's because they think there's a "hack" on the dribble. No contact, no foul. That's why we cringe when we hear someone cry for a call for a "reach." There's nothing wrong with reaching anywhere, if you don't make contact.
The call is generally a "hack," but sometimes a "hold." But never a "reach."
In Iowa, we used to have 6 on 6 girls basketball, in which players were not allowed to cross half court. One quirky rule was that each player was only allowed to dribble the ball twice. Two bounces, and that was it. Another rule was that the defense could not touch the ball if it was in the offensive player's hands (unless she was in the lane, then it was fair game.) I believe the call for this was "illegal use of the hands," but I'm not sure.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally posted by Snaqwells
In Iowa, we used to have 6 on 6 girls basketball, in which players were not allowed to cross half court. One quirky rule was that each player was only allowed to dribble the ball twice. Two bounces, and that was it. Another rule was that the defense could not touch the ball if it was in the offensive player's hands (unless she was in the lane, then it was fair game.) I believe the call for this was "illegal use of the hands," but I'm not sure.

JR: these are the girl's rules from the 50's, n'est pas?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally posted by JugglingReferee

JR: these are the girl's rules from the 50's, n'est pas?

Si, Signor.

[WinterWillie]

Originally posted by gwockenfuss

I was told by a veteran offical that there is no
1. Over the back call- should be Push from behind- True

2. How about the reach in call? I didn't think it was that , but a (hand check, or illegal use of the hands)

let me know

In the future, after you have given a technical foul and reported in to the table, you should meet with your partner(s) in the center circle and go over how you will administer the fouls and what you will do after the shots. Take your time and let the dust settle. Make sure when you leave the center circle, you are headed to the correct basket
for the free throws.

[rainmaker]

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee

Si, Signor.

A friend of mine was playing by these rules in Iowa in the mid 80's!!

[TXMATTHEW05]

Originally posted by rainmaker

Love it!

Isn't it hilarious? I have all kinds of different quotes like that...I'll change them periodically.

[williebfree]

Originally posted by rainmaker

A friend of mine was playing by these rules in Iowa in the mid 80's!!

I "second" Rainmaker's comment:

I dated a girl from Iowa in Aug 1984, she had played by the 6-on-6 rules... Even when she was in WI, now you can see why I discontinued the courtship

[ChuckElias]

Originally posted by Snaqwells
There is no "illegal use of the hands" either.

Huh?

Adam, check out signal #12 in the back of your rulebook. . .

[BktBallRef]

Originally posted by ChuckElias

Huh?

Adam, check out signal #12 in the back of your rulebook. . .

And...

"Any act or tactic of illegal use of hands, arms or body (offense or defense) that intentionally slows, prevents, impedes the progress or displaces an opposing player due to the contact, is a foul and must be called."

[Adam]

Originally posted by rainmaker
A friend of mine was playing by these rules in Iowa in the mid 80's!!

Yep. Schools in Iowa had the choice between 6 player or 5 player in the 80's. In the mid 90's, the Girls' Union announced all schools would go to 5 player girls' basketball. I want to say, off hand, that the last 6-player games were played in '94 or '95. I graduated in 1992, and my school still played 6 on 6 then.

Adam

[Adam]

Originally posted by BktBallRef

And...

"Any act or tactic of illegal use of hands, arms or body (offense or defense) that intentionally slows, prevents, impedes the progress or displaces an opposing player due to the contact, is a foul and must be called."

Well, color me embarrassed and call me wrong. I humbly submit, your honor. Will that be 20 lashes, or 21?

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