The Official Forum
Page 2 of 2 1 2
Show 100 post(s) from this thread on one page

The Official Forum (https://forum.officiating.com/)
-   Basketball (https://forum.officiating.com/basketball/)
-   -   personal foul on player, then given a techniacl (https://forum.officiating.com/basketball/11623-personal-foul-player-then-given-techniacl.html)

bob jenkins Mon Jan 12, 2004 09:33am
Quote:
Originally posted by gwockenfuss

My partner and I talked about it, and he even said it happen so fast that after the 2nd shot of the T, the other team took the ball out, since there was 3 seconds left on the clock.
How could it "happen so fast?" There shouldn't have been an opponent within about 21 feet of the ball when the second shot for the T went through the basket.

gwockenfuss Mon Jan 12, 2004 09:46am
Quote:
Originally posted by bob jenkins
Quote:
Originally posted by gwockenfuss

My partner and I talked about it, and he even said it happen so fast that after the 2nd shot of the T, the other team took the ball out, since there was 3 seconds left on the clock.
How could it "happen so fast?" There shouldn't have been an opponent within about 21 feet of the ball when the second shot for the T went through the basket.
Bottom Line, we messed up.

gwockenfuss Mon Jan 12, 2004 04:32pm
reaching in?
 
Quote:
Originally posted by TXMATTHEW05
Quote:
Originally posted by BktBallRef
Quote:
Originally posted by gwockenfuss
I was refereeing on Saturday, and as I called the foul on a player for over the back,...
What's over the back? :D

It's around the same definition as "reaching in."

:D
I was told by a veteran offical that there is no
1. Over the back call- should be Push from behind- True

2. How about the reach in call? I didn't think it was that , but a (hand check, or illegal use of the hands)

let me know

Adam Mon Jan 12, 2004 04:58pm
There is no "illegal use of the hands" either. Chances are, when someone wants a reach, it's because they think there's a "hack" on the dribble. No contact, no foul. That's why we cringe when we hear someone cry for a call for a "reach." There's nothing wrong with reaching anywhere, if you don't make contact.
The call is generally a "hack," but sometimes a "hold." But never a "reach."
In Iowa, we used to have 6 on 6 girls basketball, in which players were not allowed to cross half court. One quirky rule was that each player was only allowed to dribble the ball twice. Two bounces, and that was it. Another rule was that the defense could not touch the ball if it was in the offensive player's hands (unless she was in the lane, then it was fair game.) I believe the call for this was "illegal use of the hands," but I'm not sure.

JugglingReferee Mon Jan 12, 2004 05:57pm
To: JR
 
Quote:
Originally posted by Snaqwells
In Iowa, we used to have 6 on 6 girls basketball, in which players were not allowed to cross half court. One quirky rule was that each player was only allowed to dribble the ball twice. Two bounces, and that was it. Another rule was that the defense could not touch the ball if it was in the offensive player's hands (unless she was in the lane, then it was fair game.) I believe the call for this was "illegal use of the hands," but I'm not sure.
JR: these are the girl's rules from the 50's, n'est pas?

Jurassic Referee Mon Jan 12, 2004 07:07pm
Re: To: JR
 
Quote:
Originally posted by JugglingReferee
Quote:
Originally posted by Snaqwells
In Iowa, we used to have 6 on 6 girls basketball, in which players were not allowed to cross half court. One quirky rule was that each player was only allowed to dribble the ball twice. Two bounces, and that was it. Another rule was that the defense could not touch the ball if it was in the offensive player's hands (unless she was in the lane, then it was fair game.) I believe the call for this was "illegal use of the hands," but I'm not sure.
JR: these are the girl's rules from the 50's, n'est pas?
Si, Signor.

WinterWillie Mon Jan 12, 2004 07:39pm
Contact lenses
 
Quote:
Originally posted by gwockenfuss
Quote:
Originally posted by TXMATTHEW05
Quote:
Originally posted by BktBallRef
Quote:
Originally posted by gwockenfuss
I was refereeing on Saturday, and as I called the foul on a player for over the back,...
What's over the back? :D

It's around the same definition as "reaching in."

:D
I was told by a veteran offical that there is no
1. Over the back call- should be Push from behind- True

2. How about the reach in call? I didn't think it was that , but a (hand check, or illegal use of the hands)

let me know

In the future, after you have given a technical foul and reported in to the table, you should meet with your partner(s) in the center circle and go over how you will administer the fouls and what you will do after the shots. Take your time and let the dust settle. Make sure when you leave the center circle, you are headed to the correct basket
for the free throws.

rainmaker Mon Jan 12, 2004 08:53pm
Re: Re: To: JR
 
Quote:
Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Quote:
Originally posted by JugglingReferee
Quote:
Originally posted by Snaqwells
In Iowa, we used to have 6 on 6 girls basketball, in which players were not allowed to cross half court. One quirky rule was that each player was only allowed to dribble the ball twice. Two bounces, and that was it. Another rule was that the defense could not touch the ball if it was in the offensive player's hands (unless she was in the lane, then it was fair game.) I believe the call for this was "illegal use of the hands," but I'm not sure.
JR: these are the girl's rules from the 50's, n'est pas?
Si, Signor.
A friend of mine was playing by these rules in Iowa in the mid 80's!!

TXMATTHEW05 Mon Jan 12, 2004 09:37pm
Quote:
Originally posted by rainmaker
Quote:
Originally posted by TXMATTHEW05
Your lucky number is 32345543423225. Watch for it everywhere!
Love it!

Isn't it hilarious? I have all kinds of different quotes like that...I'll change them periodically.

:D

williebfree Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:09pm
Re: Re: Re: To: JR
 
Quote:
Originally posted by rainmaker
Quote:
Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Quote:
Originally posted by JugglingReferee
Quote:
Originally posted by Snaqwells
In Iowa, we used to have 6 on 6 girls basketball, in which players were not allowed to cross half court. One quirky rule was that each player was only allowed to dribble the ball twice. Two bounces, and that was it. Another rule was that the defense could not touch the ball if it was in the offensive player's hands (unless she was in the lane, then it was fair game.) I believe the call for this was "illegal use of the hands," but I'm not sure.
JR: these are the girl's rules from the 50's, n'est pas?
Si, Signor.
A friend of mine was playing by these rules in Iowa in the mid 80's!!
I "second" Rainmaker's comment:

I dated a girl from Iowa in Aug 1984, she had played by the 6-on-6 rules... Even when she was in WI, now you can see why I discontinued the courtship :D

ChuckElias Tue Jan 13, 2004 10:46am
Quote:
Originally posted by Snaqwells
There is no "illegal use of the hands" either.
Huh? :confused:

Adam, check out signal #12 in the back of your rulebook. . .

BktBallRef Tue Jan 13, 2004 11:25am
Quote:
Originally posted by ChuckElias
Quote:
Originally posted by Snaqwells
There is no "illegal use of the hands" either.
Huh? :confused:

Adam, check out signal #12 in the back of your rulebook. . .
And...

"Any act or tactic of illegal use of hands, arms or body (offense or defense) that intentionally slows, prevents, impedes the progress or displaces an opposing player due to the contact, is a foul and must be called."

Adam Tue Jan 13, 2004 04:18pm
Re: Re: Re: To: JR
 
Quote:
Originally posted by rainmaker
A friend of mine was playing by these rules in Iowa in the mid 80's!!
Yep. Schools in Iowa had the choice between 6 player or 5 player in the 80's. In the mid 90's, the Girls' Union announced all schools would go to 5 player girls' basketball. I want to say, off hand, that the last 6-player games were played in '94 or '95. I graduated in 1992, and my school still played 6 on 6 then.

Adam

Adam Tue Jan 13, 2004 04:19pm
Quote:
Originally posted by BktBallRef
Quote:
Originally posted by ChuckElias
Quote:
Originally posted by Snaqwells
There is no "illegal use of the hands" either.
Huh? :confused:

Adam, check out signal #12 in the back of your rulebook. . .
And...

"Any act or tactic of illegal use of hands, arms or body (offense or defense) that intentionally slows, prevents, impedes the progress or displaces an opposing player due to the contact, is a foul and must be called."
Well, color me embarrassed and call me wrong. I humbly submit, your honor. Will that be 20 lashes, or 21?

Oops


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:40pm.
Page 2 of 2 1 2
Show 100 post(s) from this thread on one page



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1