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Originally posted by Mregor

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Originally posted by Dan_ref

WWII...damn...but you're right, no one wants to be the NFG! :)

Don't you mean FNG?

Mregor [/B]

yeah...

Personaly, I'm trying to change mine to "befor the shot" but I'll admit its a hard habit to break.

I think I understand why you want to be "by the book" as an evaluator but have to agree with many here that you probably have a lot more important issues to deal with in your organization than some excess verbage. If the correct mechanics are used (ie by the book) they inform your partner, coach, player etc that you are going to shoot or be OOB so verbage is somewhat redundant. On the other hand it certainly helps when selling a call at certain times during the game. If they use "on the floor" for each time a player is fouled it certainly would not be useful. Working with the younger members to be mechanically perfect is certainly going to be less frustrating for you. I would think you should be more concerned with a correct call and the proper interpretation of what is "in the act of shooting".

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Originally posted by BktBallRef
The biggest problem with the term is that the shooter being "on the floor" actually has no bearing on whether the foul is a shooting foul or not.

He can be "on the floor" and continuous motion can have already started.

That's why the term is inaccurate.

Thank you Tony. I have already made this point and now that two of us have made it more people will listen to us. The phrase "on the floor" is meaningless. It is like having your partner tell you "its good" instead of telling you the ball went in or did not go in.

MTD, Sr.

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Originally posted by RefRx
I think I understand why you want to be "by the book" as an evaluator but have to agree with many here that you probably have a lot more important issues to deal with in your organization than some excess verbage. If the correct mechanics are used (ie by the book) they inform your partner, coach, player etc that you are going to shoot or be OOB so verbage is somewhat redundant. On the other hand it certainly helps when selling a call at certain times during the game. If they use "on the floor" for each time a player is fouled it certainly would not be useful. Working with the younger members to be mechanically perfect is certainly going to be less frustrating for you. I would think you should be more concerned with a correct call and the proper interpretation of what is "in the act of shooting".

Using "on the floor" to sell a call is not a good mechanic. Being confident is using correct mechanics and foul reporting protocol is the best way to sell a call.

For seven years I have always thought that "on the floor" meant that the ball is to be administered (usually on the endline) OOB (player standing on the floor), instead of the players all lining up for foul shots. So how do you like THAT for communication?

My interpreter has always said that "on the floor" is NOT proper and we should not say it (no threats attached). I usually communicate to my partner "two shots" (fingers up), or I say "possession" and point to the spot, then run report the foul.

It's Christmas Eve Eve, and look what we are doing-
Talking basketball (guess I have no life).

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Originally posted by nine01c
For seven years I have always thought that "on the floor" meant that the ball is to be administered (usually on the endline) OOB (player standing on the floor), instead of the players all lining up for foul shots. So how do you like THAT for communication?

My interpreter has always said that "on the floor" is NOT proper and we should not say it (no threats attached). I usually communicate to my partner "two shots" (fingers up), or I say "possession" and point to the spot, then run report the foul.

It's Christmas Eve Eve, and look what we are doing-
Talking basketball (guess I have no life).

I'm with nine01c -- I thought it meant where the re-start would happen. Must be a girl thing.

But don't worry Dan, I'm still perusing the board 2 hours a day even though the touchy-feely part of me is screaming, "Cookies!! Candy!! Pretty bows!! Sentimental cards!!" and so on. Maybe the balance is getting better.