Time To Stir the Pot!!

[BktBallRef]

Originally posted by Back In The Saddle

I secretly suspect that Tony is like this much of the time

Actually, I don't touch the stuff at all.

[Jesse James]

Pardon my ignorance, but when I last officiated (years ago), things were obviously different. If A1 has the ball out of bounds (after a made bucket) and passes to A2, who is also out of bounds, is it now legal for B to reach through the plane and intercept that pass?

[bob jenkins]

Originally posted by Jesse James
Pardon my ignorance, but when I last officiated (years ago), things were obviously different. If A1 has the ball out of bounds (after a made bucket) and passes to A2, who is also out of bounds, is it now legal for B to reach through the plane and intercept that pass?

No. That's not the play being discussed in this thread.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.
Play (a):
NFHS: It is legal for B1 to touch the ball after A1 has released the ball for the throw-in and the ball is still on the out-of-bounds side of the boundary line. Out-of-bounds off of B1. Team A gets a designated spot throw-in closet to the spot where the ball touched out-of-bounds.

Ok, "other Mark", riddle me this. In this case, what would the ruling be if, after being touched by B1 before it breaks the plane, the ball does not hit OOB, but continues inbounds? Is this then just a no-call?

[ChuckElias]

Originally posted by Mark Padgett
what would the ruling be if, after being touched by B1 before it breaks the plane, the ball does not hit OOB, but continues inbounds? Is this then just a no-call?

Yes. There's been no infraction. Play on.

[ChuckElias]

Originally posted by Jesse James
If A1 has the ball out of bounds (after a made bucket) and passes to A2, who is also out of bounds, is it now legal for B to reach through the plane and intercept that pass?

That's not legal, Jesse. As Bob pointed out, however, that's also not the play under discussion. We're not talking about a ball being passed between 2 or more teammates who are OOB. We're discussing a throw-in pass is thrown directly onto the court. In your case, it's a technical foul for the defender to touch the ball. In our case, it's perfectly legal.

[Jesse James]

....A1

........A2
______________________
...........A3

After a made bucket (I know this is a different play than previously discussed), A1 passes toward A2, who is out-of-bounds, and A3, who is inbounds. B intercepts while pass is still out of bounds. T or legal?

[Jesse James]

....A1

............A2
_____________________________
..................A3

After a made bucket (I know this is a different play than previously discussed), A1 passes toward A2, who is out-of-bounds, and A3, who is inbounds. B intercepts while pass is still out of bounds. T or legal?

[BktBallRef]

Originally posted by Jesse James
....A1

........A2
______________________
...........A3

After a made bucket (I know this is a different play than previously discussed), A1 passes toward A2, who is out-of-bounds, and A3, who is inbounds. B intercepts while pass is still out of bounds. T or legal?

Which pass?

A1 to A2? Technical foul.

A2 to A3? Legal.

[Jesse James]

It's just one pass. A2 and A3 are in alignment with each other, A2 still out of bounds, A3 inbounds. It's like a cut-off play in baseball, you don't know if A2 is going to "cut-off" the pass, or let it proceed to A3. And you really don't know who's going to catch the pass if B intercepts the ball before it gets to A2.

[bob jenkins]

Originally posted by Jesse James
It's just one pass. A2 and A3 are in alignment with each other, A2 still out of bounds, A3 inbounds. It's like a cut-off play in baseball, you don't know if A2 is going to "cut-off" the pass, or let it proceed to A3. And you really don't know who's going to catch the pass if B intercepts the ball before it gets to A2.

1) The official must decide to whom the pass was being made.

2) How is B going to get to the ball in the play descirbed?

3) You've seen this play how often?

[Ref Daddy]

I was tought - and do - give a warning for reaching over the line early in a game - as applicable.

T next

Others do this?

[BktBallRef]

Originally posted by Jesse James
It's just one pass. A2 and A3 are in alignment with each other, A2 still out of bounds, A3 inbounds. It's like a cut-off play in baseball, you don't know if A2 is going to "cut-off" the pass, or let it proceed to A3. And you really don't know who's going to catch the pass if B intercepts the ball before it gets to A2.

If A2 is OOB, in position to catch a pass, then B1 cannot touch that pass until it breaks the plane.

[Ballen]

I was tought - and do - give a warning for reaching over the line early in a game - as applicable.

T next

Others do this?

I do this and have occasionally wondered if I was guilty of "OOO".

To avoid this I've adopted a mechanic of raising and lowering my arm to indicate to B guarding the thrower that there is an invisible plane they must avoid crossing.

What do you all think?

[BktBallRef]

Originally posted by Ballen


I do this and have occasionally wondered if I was guilty of "OOO".

OOO? Over officitating ________?

I tell the thrower spot or run.

I tell the defender not to break the plane.

It's preventive officiating.