Jeez, and you guys thought I was grumpy today. . . :)

No, you're not Grumpy. ;)

You're not even Dopey. :)

You're Shorty. :D

[Quote]Originally posted by BktBallRef
I've read the questions he asks and the replies he gives.

OUCH!

RD

In regards to "spiderman" I don't think everyone stands still when a pass is made. So let me refresh...all 10 players in backcourt. As A1 makes long pass to A2 who has ran from backcourt into the front court and catches pass from A1 near top of 3-point line and shoots...who has 3-point attempt?

Lead

RD

They do? I will have to remember that when I officiate next time.

Peace

Nah JRut...I know you follow every Rule to the letter, so you will want to go by the STRICT written word of the officials manual which has the T making that call even though he is standing in the backcourt 40+ feet away and the L is right on top of it. Or does the manual actually state/show that?

RD

DUDE!

Dont want to sound mean or anything, but I will ask this question... As a Rookie, How could you possibly know enough about basketball officiating to take on the likes of Rut?

I know that we all here dont see eye to eye on everything, and I have never worked with him ever, but based on what I have seen him post I figure him to be reasonably prgamatic.

Here's my advice for the 2 cents its worth. You asked learn from what you asked. We all may be blowing some up your skirt ( Sorry Juulie) but we have been around.

I can tell you from experience, rookies who want to challenge senior officials everytime will last in officiating circles about as long as a shot clock in the NBA. I can tell you there are times when common sense prevails, but unless it is pregamed, unless it is communicated, stick with the book.

I did an evaluation once with a rookie who was trying to tell me a the reason he stood where he was standing on the floor (Trail about 2 steps in FC) was because the team was playing spread offense. He did not move from the magical spot all night. He had no idea what he was talking about... It was his 5th or 6th game ever...

Just be careful

No need to apologize -- I never wear skirts on the court!

"T" has the clock period. That is my final answer.

T has the clock, but from my experience, L may have the call on whether or not it's a 3.

Had a game with this situation over Thanksgiving weekend. 2 Whilste, I was L. My partner indicated the shot was before the horn, looked to me to tell him whether it was a 3 or not. He also counseled me to get to a spot where I could observer the 3 point line and freeze while he would freeze near the other end. Thus we'd both have good solid looks at the portion we needed to see.

Grail

How can the T have the shot UNLESS s/he has a hubble telliscope!! Give it to the L, s/he is standing right there.

ok,TSP you cant make all the calls. The trail has the clock on the last shot of the game. End of story,. put it to bed.

[Edited by CLAY on Dec 31st, 2003 at 03:14 PM]

not if he's already headed to the locker room to shower!

My board interpreter has taught (and reviewed for the vets that are awake) that if the ball is being inbounded from the endline, and the shot is going into the basket at the other end of the court (full court pass and shot), the new Lead will determine if the shot is good, providing there are 4 seconds or fewer on the game clock. In all other cases it is the Trail's responsibility.

This is to be discussed in pregame, and maybe a reminder in the game if there is a delay (time out, etc.), or a least a tap on the chest (it's my call at the buzzer)to be sure there is no double call.