Yes, I said he was at half court AFTER the shot, the miss, the rebound, the horn and the subsequent last shot. My partner was in the backcourt when the 1st player took the shot(I thought you would have realized that since the Trail does just that, Trails...and the player was at half court on the shot) Again, it was a throw in from Back court baseline to a player shooting a last second shot at half court...just as I said in my original post.



You made this statement AFTER after the story was "changed"...so I guess you still thought a mistake was made with the T in the backcourt 40+ feet away and the L less than 6 feet away and in great position.

originally posted by BktBallRef
I have no problem with the L making the call,

...or maybe you are the one "changing" your story...;)


RD

RD, you asked a question and Tony answered it...if you don't like the answers, don't ask the questions in the first place...having said that, you were the official in the best position to see if the shot was off in time or not...you were not the official who needed to be signalling that...the T has the primary responsibility for the last second shot - you bust your butt back out there to your partner and tell him what you have without making any signal on the court - that way you avoid the possibility of you waving it off and partner hammering it home...that's the volatile situation that could come up... hold your signal and go communicate with your partner...

My $.02:

Rookiedude should have let this go, period. Only 2 times when the L should take this. First case is easy, when the T cannot see the play and gives it up to the L. Second case is when you have decided just prior to the play - not pregamed but communicated verbally or by signal immediately before - that the L will take the shot in certain situations.

RD, tell ya what. The next time you ask a question, just email me first as to what you want the answer to be and I'll reply for you.

Gees. Rookies. :(

Dan, why not pregamed? My $.02 on this is that I pregame it. If we have a "Christian Laettner" play (under 3 seconds, throw in from backcourt endline), last shot is Lead's. This is the only time I expect the Lead to take the last shot.

What's wrong with that approach, Dan?

To clarify, yes last second shot coverage is pregamed but then confirmed verbally or by signal prior to the last shot. Maybe better if I worded it that way.

Ok, I gotcha. Just confirm it before the throw-in, so that we both remember what we pre-gamed. No problem with that.

That is what I have been pregaming for the last couple of years.

First off some of you guys dog Rookie Dude because you think he's a rookie. Names can be deceiving. RD is a 14 year vet, number 2 in our association, our rules chairman, last 2 years state tourney, etc...a rookie by no means. Second RD is having a lot of fun with you guys.

Next, if full court pressure, and all 10 players are in the back court (lead is at half court)long pass and player A catches pass at top of key and turns and shoots...Who signals 3 point shot?

Lemme see now....player A is in the back court. Someone throws a long pass, and now player A catches that pass at the top of the key.

My conclusion is that either player A is Spiderman, or you're having a lot of fun with us guys too.

Why dontcha go ask your bud rookiedude, eh "red neck"?

You're blowing my cover Randy!

These "guys" are sharp!...and yes it is a lot of fun to ask questions and see the varied answers. Hopefully, we can all learn from these discussions...real or imagined.

RD

And everybody else is tied for first. :D

:D

RD

Yeah right. And I'm scheduled to work my 5th NBA Finals in June.

I've read the questions he asks and the replies he gives. You're the one having a lot of fun.