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I've been sort of assuming that as my skill as a ref improved, I'd be getting better and better partners. I hadn't noticed until quite recently that some of my earliest partners were actually very good refs, who had been paired with... me. Hmm.
So now I'm getting more variety, and realizing that having a lousy partner could be a good thing. I'm also realizing that I don't handle it very well. I don't mean how I talk to him, or try to get him to change. I mean how do I still be good ref, when he's so... lame. I don't feel right about "just call your game." It just doesn't work. And mick's mantra of "get in, get done, get out" sounds terrific, but what does it mean? Specifically? For instance, if he's calling no travels in his area, and so one coach is getting basically screwed, do I pass on the nasty ones at my end too? Trade more, so I can call it at both ends? Or what? I T'd a coach tonight, basically because he had lost it completely, and frankly, I would have too, if I were him. It wasn't just my partner who did a lousy job, it was both of us. But what should I have said earlier on, knowing that it wasn't going to get any better, that might have calmed him down a little? I don't think his team would have won if we'd called it differently. But I can sure see why he might think so. All advice appreciated. 
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Fri Dec 05, 2003, 02:19am
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It takes the fun out of it!
having called a game tonight with two very good officials it made me realize how much fun it is to call with good partners.
We were in three man and had a blast even though the games were not that close. But I agree when calling with a bad partner, it is not any fun. There's no such thing as one good and one bad official. Its always going to be "the officals" were horrible. (package deal) But, I don't worry about trying to make up the difference. You might have to do a little more explaining on why some calls were made especially if you have to try and explain why your partner did or did NOT call something etc., Just do your best and be glad when its over. It sound simple, but its very hard at the time, and you're glad when its over. Thanks David
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Fri Dec 05, 2003, 02:26am
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I resemble that game. I remember once making 5 calls in a row against one team and the next opportunity for a foul against the opponent was called a jumpball by my partner. The coach came unglued. I gave him a T for his language and then let him vent for 2 minutes. We shot the shots and the game continued. Bad games happen. All you can do is put it in the past. If it is your partner's night to have a bad night, then talk to him and go on.
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Fri Dec 05, 2003, 08:36am
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I'm where we get to pick our partners and get our own games. I only work with good officials cause the games I get I'm asked to provide 2 officials. When another official calls me, it's because he wants to work with me.
I've had four games this season -- all varsity boys. I've enjoyed being on the court for all four even though the games were all pretty lopsided. Last night was a blowout, but my partner and I found a reason to laugh on the court near the end of the game (mad scramble in the backcourt where I ended up with a 10-second violation -- you had to be there). I could've gone two more quarters, easily. The coaches were great, though -- the losing coach almost fielded a live ball that was thrown in the backcourt and was heading out of bounds and even though he was losing he joked that I'd probably called a backcourt violation on him. Now, the flipside. My partner and I braved the elements last night and drove 1:30 into a place where my cell phone actually said "Dream on" when I tried to place a call  . We arrived an hour before the varsity game and walked in the gym to watch some of the JV game. On the way up we were joking about JV officials at some of the smaller schools and the uniforms they wear -- Byron collars, windpants, white shoes (local small-town officials who don't belong to an association because, well, it's not required here). Well, one of the officials had all three last night -- windpants, white shoes, and a collared shirt. The other one was in black jeans. We got through a minute of it before we couldn't watch anymore. Of course the laughing at the irony of our discussion wasn't helping either.Slipping down into another state tonight for my first 3-whistle game of the season. Rich
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Fri Dec 05, 2003, 09:04am
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I'm in my first year of HS officiating, but I had a somewhat similar situation this year. It occurred when I was the R in a 2 whistle game, working with another 1st year HS official. Unfortunately, our association can't always pair new officials with veterans, so a slightly higher rated rookie (test score, clinic attendance) will get the R.
Girls JV game, plenty of sloppy play. My partner is "letting them play" and we are not calling the obvious, or staying true to advantage / disadvantage. By halftime, coaches and fans are getting hot, and letting us know about it. What do you do? What I did was talk to my partner at half, saying "I think we need to tighten it up a little bit." His reply: "No, everything's fine. These coaches and fans are always whining." Well, second half I was calling damn near everything. I was blowing his whistle as well as mine. I think we got control of the game back, and funny, he didn't mind that I was making calls in his primary. But I felt lousy at the end, because as a team, we were lousy out there. Matt
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Fri Dec 05, 2003, 09:16am
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As a 2nd year official I generally feel that I should be that new, not so good ref. Fortunately for me I had reffed many games prior to signing on for high-school games.
During my college intrmural days I found that I had to call the whole game. Now that I am working high school games I am working hard to call my Primary and not worry about what my partner calls. I realize that my partner's calls will reflect on me, and the game may be called a little (or a lot) inconsistently, but I also know that I still have lots to learn, and lots of room to improve. I decided at the start of the year to work hard on staying in my Primary, particularly when the ball was not. It has led to my calling more off-ball fouls, and probably has helped me to be a better individual official. Does it make the games better? I'm not sure. Last week I worked 2 games with a 15 yr. vet. One was a blow out, one went to overtime and ended up a 1-point game. I thought we did a great job in both and that the game was very consistent. The next 3 games I've worked have all been with people less experienced than me. I know the games did not go as well because my partner and I were not on the same page. Maybe I'm selfish, but I'm just trying to be the best official I can be. I figure if I study and work hard I will move up past the underclass ranks and be paired with better partners. When I get there I want to be used to calling a good game, focusing on my Primary.
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Fri Dec 05, 2003, 09:21am
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So I take it you didn't have the King/LaFollette game last night? Mregor [Edited by Mregor on Dec 5th, 2003 at 08:29 AM]
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Fri Dec 05, 2003, 09:31am
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Find a compliment anywhere you can
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That other guy is totally clueless."
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Fri Dec 05, 2003, 09:38am
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I was in a rural school north of Reedsburg. Tonight I'm in northern Illinois where I do get an extra partner. Rich
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Fri Dec 05, 2003, 09:51am
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You might not feel good about it, but that's what you have to do. If you can't get your partner to pick it up (and maybe he's just not good enough to pick it up), then you just have to call your game and get through it. Depending on the level of the game, you may be able to extend your coverage a bit. If your partner is not "calling the obvious", you may want to neglect some off-ball coverage in your primary in order to grab the obvious stuff. But other than that, you have to get what's in front of you and, really, what else could you do? You may have the opportunity to work on your methods for interacting with coaches in a game like that, too.  Quote:
Sorry you had a tough one, Juulie.
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Fri Dec 05, 2003, 09:52am
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Be dressed, Be ready to pregame, Be strong with your calls, Be crisp with your mechanics, Don't stretch your floor, Offer no advice, Tell the coach you understand, Keep your head up, Be unemotional, Be polite.
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Fri Dec 05, 2003, 10:13am
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I think everyone has experienced this. I am in my 3rd year and have worked with some bad partners. It makes me realize how much fun it is to work with a good partner. I worked with a guy last year in two freshman girls games on consecutive Saturday mornings that were the worst games of my life. Nice guy, experienced varsity softball umpire, the worst basketball official I have ever seen. He liked to do things like, call a foul and not report it; give the ball the the shooter for free throws when players were still moving into the lane, in the wrong spots etc. Actually handed the ball to a player from the wrong team to shoot the opponents free throw at one point. I eventually felt obligated to keep track of what he was doing as well as my own responsibilities. Coaches were *****ing to me about him the entire game but never said much of anything to him. I told a few assignors to never put me with him again. These games in addition to a few others led me to seek out a partner for this season, which is common in this area as you move up. I am probably working over half of my games with him this year. I don't think I have figured out any way to make games with bad partners better. It just makes me appreciate the good partners more.
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Fri Dec 05, 2003, 10:40am
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Juulie, the good news is that being where you are at right now is the next step in your progression as an official...as someone who has watched, evaluated, observed you for several years now, I must say I have been waiting for you to get to this point - where you realize that you aren't the rookie anymore and that you can and do have a large role to play in helping the less experienced (or just plain not as good) officials you are working with...I'm glad you are there!
Now the bad news...there really aren't any "stock" answers or case plays to quote that will help you thru this...you have to figure out what works for you...what works for Mick, or Tony, or Chuck, or Jurassic won't necessarily work for you...go back thru your journals and memories to find the times when someone helped you out in a situation like this, and start incorporating those types of things into your games...also, be willing to step out of your comfort zone and tell a partner to "get his a$$ in gear" when you need to - I know that won't be easy for you, but I also know you can do it...good luck, and feel free to e-mail me to discuss it further...
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Fri Dec 05, 2003, 11:08am
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Good advice from the Rock- not only for Rainmaker either!
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Fri Dec 05, 2003, 11:47am
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