headwear????????

BOBBYMO · #1 (**permalink**) Sat Nov 29, 2003, 01:34am

Tonight I was at a college woman's game and I saw something that really got me curious.

Todays trend in headwear for players with longer hair is to take some "pre-wrap" ( gausey elastic strechable material) and twist it up like a small rubber band and place it on their head to keep their hair from going into their face / eyes.

Tonight before the opening tip an official made all the players wearing this " pre-wrap' to remove it before the game started.

When I got home I tried to look it up but came up with nothing showing that this is illegal. To me its much safer than wearing a plastic brett.

Has anyone seen a rule stating that this is not legal headwear????

zebraman · #2 (**permalink**) Sat Nov 29, 2003, 01:37am

It's not for the purpose of "jewelry" and it's not dangerous. I don't see any reason not to allow it.

Z

nine01c · #3 (**permalink**) Sat Nov 29, 2003, 09:05am

How are they wearing this item? Like a headband all the way around the head, or like a pony tail holder? In either case, I don't see how it would be illegal.

BOBBYMO · #4 (**permalink**) Sat Nov 29, 2003, 09:27am

They are twisting it up lengthwise so it is no wider / thicker than a rubber band. They are wearing it all the way around their head like a headband, Not just around their ponytail. To me its safe and causes no harm and is not worn as jewlrey. It is not visible from very far away.

rainmaker · #5 (**permalink**) Sat Nov 29, 2003, 09:51am

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Originally posted by BOBBYMO
They are twisting it up lengthwise so it is no wider / thicker than a rubber band.

One year in our association, someone interpreted this stuff as a "rubber band" and we were told it was illegal. When I realized what they were talking about, I went to my mentor and asked what we should do. She said, if it isn't a rubber band it isn't illegal, so I just ignore it now. Maybe your partner had heard that it was a rubber band. Good grief don't we have more important things to worry about?!?

Jurassic Referee · #6 (**permalink**) Sat Nov 29, 2003, 10:23am

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Good grief don't we have more important things to worry about?!? [/B]

Uh, yeah.

But,what we don't know in this sitch was what direction the official who banned them had ben given. If his supervisor told him that they were a no-no, then that's all she wrote.

bob jenkins · #7 (**permalink**) Sat Nov 29, 2003, 10:40am

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Originally posted by BOBBYMO
Tonight I was at a college woman's game and I saw something that really got me curious.

Todays trend in headwear for players with longer hair is to take some "pre-wrap" ( gausey elastic strechable material) and twist it up like a small rubber band and place it on their head to keep their hair from going into their face / eyes.

Tonight before the opening tip an official made all the players wearing this " pre-wrap' to remove it before the game started.

When I got home I tried to look it up but came up with nothing showing that this is illegal. To me its much safer than wearing a plastic brett.

Has anyone seen a rule stating that this is not legal headwear????

Specifically not allowed in NCAAW. See one of the interps published last year.

BOBBYMO · #8 (**permalink**) Sat Nov 29, 2003, 11:00am

"Specifically not allowed in NCAAW. See one of the interps published last year."

..... Do you have a copy of this or could you please let me know where I could find it????

Thanks

ChuckElias · #9 (**permalink**) Sat Nov 29, 2003, 04:49pm

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She said, if it isn't a rubber band it isn't illegal, so I just ignore it now.

I would argue rather that unless it is "a headband no wider than 2 inches and made of nonabrasive, unadorned (except for logo/trademark, see 3-6) single-colored cloth, elastic, fiber, soft leather or rubber", it isn't legal. (FED 3-5, Exception 2). Maybe this pre-wrap stuff falls into one of the exceptions listed above, but there's a lot of stuff that's illegal, not just rubber bands.

rainmaker · #10 (**permalink**) Sat Nov 29, 2003, 07:06pm

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She said, if it isn't a rubber band it isn't illegal, so I just ignore it now.

I would argue rather that unless it is "a headband no wider than 2 inches and made of nonabrasive, unadorned (except for logo/trademark, see 3-6) single-colored cloth, elastic, fiber, soft leather or rubber", it isn't legal. (FED 3-5, Exception 2). Maybe this pre-wrap stuff falls into one of the exceptions listed above, but there's a lot of stuff that's illegal, not just rubber bands.

"This Pre-Wrap Stuff"?? You don't know pre-wrap? It's the flexible foam stuff they put under tape when they do your ankle or wrist, so they don't pull off all the hair when the tape comes off. It's, non-abrasive, unadorned, single-colored, elastic, fiber.

I see your point, though, about not just rubber bands being illegal. In the particular conversation, those were the only two topics -- rubber and pre-wrap-- and we both knew we weren't talking about other things.

ChuckElias · #11 (**permalink**) Sat Nov 29, 2003, 08:08pm

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"This Pre-Wrap Stuff"?? You don't know pre-wrap?

I know that there is such a thing as pre-wrap. But I don't really know what it's made of, or whether it would fit the list of exceptions in 3-5.

bob jenkins · #12 (**permalink**) Sun Nov 30, 2003, 06:33pm

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Originally posted by BOBBYMO
"Specifically not allowed in NCAAW. See one of the interps published last year."

..... Do you have a copy of this or could you please let me know where I could find it????

Thanks

http://www.ncaa.org/champadmin/basketball

look at the women's bulletins from last year.

BktBallRef · #13 (**permalink**) Sun Nov 30, 2003, 07:27pm

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Originally posted by BOBBYMO
They are twisting it up lengthwise so it is no wider / thicker than a rubber band.

One year in our association, someone interpreted this stuff as a "rubber band" and we were told it was illegal. When I realized what they were talking about, I went to my mentor and asked what we should do. She said, if it isn't a rubber band it isn't illegal, so I just ignore it now. Maybe your partner had heard that it was a rubber band. Good grief don't we have more important things to worry about?!?

Are we saying that a rubber band in the hair is illegal?

rainmaker · #14 (**permalink**) Sun Nov 30, 2003, 07:46pm

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Originally posted by BOBBYMO
They are twisting it up lengthwise so it is no wider / thicker than a rubber band.

One year in our association, someone interpreted this stuff as a "rubber band" and we were told it was illegal. When I realized what they were talking about, I went to my mentor and asked what we should do. She said, if it isn't a rubber band it isn't illegal, so I just ignore it now. Maybe your partner had heard that it was a rubber band. Good grief don't we have more important things to worry about?!?

Are we saying that a rubber band in the hair is illegal?

Apparently if it's around the head, as opposed to being around the hair, it's illegal. I don't understand it, and I don't check. But that's what we were told.

BktBallRef · #15 (**permalink**) Sun Nov 30, 2003, 08:02pm

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Originally posted by BOBBYMO
They are twisting it up lengthwise so it is no wider / thicker than a rubber band.

One year in our association, someone interpreted this stuff as a "rubber band" and we were told it was illegal. When I realized what they were talking about, I went to my mentor and asked what we should do. She said, if it isn't a rubber band it isn't illegal, so I just ignore it now. Maybe your partner had heard that it was a rubber band. Good grief don't we have more important things to worry about?!?

Are we saying that a rubber band in the hair is illegal?

Apparently if it's around the head, as opposed to being around the hair, it's illegal. I don't understand it, and I don't check. But that's what we were told.

Okay, I can live with that. I seem to remember that being mentioned a couple of years ago, but the way I read it, that's contrary to the rule. But I'm just having trouble picturing what BOBBYMO is talking about.