The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Basketball
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Fri Nov 07, 2003, 02:54pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: Western Maine
Posts: 43
A—1 is holding the ball in team A's frontcourt near the division line. A—1's bounce pass to A—2 touches the division line and then touches the floor in the frontcourt A-2, in the frontcourt, catches the ball after touching in frontcourt. Official allows play to continue. Is the official correct?
__________________
Joel P.

Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Fri Nov 07, 2003, 03:00pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Posts: 18,126
Quote:
Originally posted by Joel Poli
A—1 is holding the ball in team A's frontcourt near the division line. A—1's bounce pass to A—2 touches the division line and then touches the floor in the frontcourt A-2, in the frontcourt, catches the ball after touching in frontcourt. Official allows play to continue. Is the official correct?
No, the official is not correct.

1) Team control -- yes
2) Ball in front court -- yes
3) A last to touch before ball went backcourt -- yes
4) A first to touch after ball went backcourt -- yes

Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Fri Nov 07, 2003, 03:08pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: Western Maine
Posts: 43
Even though the ball has frontcourt status?
__________________
Joel P.

Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Fri Nov 07, 2003, 03:22pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Posts: 2,217
Yes- it is still a violation. Ball went backcourt after being frontcourt while A had team control. a last to touch before, first to touch after - violation.

BTW, if ball comes to A2 on one bounce, the one that struck the dividing line, the ball is b/c not f/c when A2 touches it. That is even more reason that this is a violation.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Fri Nov 07, 2003, 03:32pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: In a little pink house
Posts: 5,289
NFHS 9-9-1 A player shall not be the first to touch a ball after it has been in team control in the frontcourt [which is has been], if he/she or a teammate last touched or was touched by the ball in the frontcout before it went to the backcourt [which happened].

The rule makes no distinction regarding the ball regaining frontcourt status before being touched. Violation.
__________________
"It is not enough to do your best; you must know what to do, and then do your best." - W. Edwards Deming
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old Fri Nov 07, 2003, 03:47pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: Western Maine
Posts: 43
Hawk Coach,
The question states "A—1's bounce pass to A—2 touches the division line and then touches the floor in the frontcourt" which puts the ball in the frontcourt.
__________________
Joel P.

Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old Fri Nov 07, 2003, 04:01pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Posts: 18,126
Quote:
Originally posted by Joel Poli
Hawk Coach,
The question states "A—1's bounce pass to A—2 touches the division line and then touches the floor in the frontcourt" which puts the ball in the frontcourt.
It doesn't matter where the ball is.

Only that A touched it before it went backcourt and after it went backcourt.

Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old Fri Nov 07, 2003, 05:03pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Posts: 2,217
Bob
You are right that it doesn't matter, but Joel is right that I failed to RTFQ and the ball did indeed achieve front court status. My bad - but it is a b/c violation anyway.
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old Fri Nov 07, 2003, 06:32pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 58
The bottom line is, the way I understand it, the division line is part of the backcourt, so when the ball bounced on the division line, it then had achieved backcourt status and a violation occured.
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old Fri Nov 07, 2003, 08:46pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Western Mass.
Posts: 9,105
Send a message via AIM to ChuckElias
Quote:
Originally posted by donj
The bottom line is, the way I understand it, the division line is part of the backcourt, so when the ball bounced on the division line, it then had achieved backcourt status and a violation occured.
Just be careful here, Don. The violation doesn't occur when the ball hits the backcourt line, does it?
__________________
Any NCAA rules and interpretations in this post are relevant for men's games only!
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old Fri Nov 07, 2003, 11:05pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 58
Chuck,

I stand corrected. After re-reading the rule (9-1-1), once the ball touched the divison line and then was touched by team A who last touched in frontcourt, then it's a backcourt violation.

Thanks
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:19am.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1