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Old Fri Nov 07, 2003, 12:43pm
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Does the lane 3 second count start when the ball is given to offensive player taking the ball out of bounds or when the ball is thrown in bounds by the offensive player?
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Old Fri Nov 07, 2003, 12:46pm
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It's like deja vu all over again!
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Old Fri Nov 07, 2003, 01:04pm
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Asked it 4 times! This must be really important!!

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Old Fri Nov 07, 2003, 01:41pm
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Again

Some here get tired of answering the same question again and again....

The ball must be in-bounds for the three second count to begin. You surely wouldn't call a 3-second vioaltion while the throw-in is proceeding (making your 5-second count).
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Old Fri Nov 07, 2003, 01:48pm
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Dahhhh

I get it! He made the same posting several times and probalby got the same answer for each of the postings.

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Old Fri Nov 07, 2003, 01:57pm
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Re: Again

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The ball must be in-bounds for the three second count to begin.
And be in team control. And be in the frontcourt. . .

Maybe you meant "D'Oh!"
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Old Fri Nov 07, 2003, 02:11pm
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Chuck - This may be the perfect place for your classic explanation of the thought process an official's mind goes through during the three second count!
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Old Fri Nov 07, 2003, 02:19pm
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Red face He He!!!!

There is a 3 seconds call?

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Old Fri Nov 07, 2003, 02:27pm
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Red face He! He!

Chuck has a thought process?

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Old Fri Nov 07, 2003, 02:32pm
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Chuck - This may be the perfect place for your classic explanation of the thought process an official's mind goes through during the three second count!
Sorry, Andy, I can't find it without the search function. I tried google and couldn't find it either.
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Old Fri Nov 07, 2003, 02:33pm
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Re: He! He!

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Chuck has a thought process?

Lots of process. No thought.
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Old Fri Nov 07, 2003, 03:10pm
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To summarize the rule for ellewis:
Ball must be inbounds, controlled by a member of the offensive team in the front court (control being defined as a catch or the start of a dribble). Mere release of the inbounds pass doesn't start the count, touching of the ball without control doesn't start the count, and controlling the ball in he back court doesn't start the count.

If you really like the folks that yell for three seconds, try this one. A1 in lane, A2 inbounding, A2 releases ball at 4.9 seconds of 5 second count on a high lob beyond the top of the key, 1 second later A3 catches just inside the front court, 2.5 seconds later A3 passes to A1 (still in the lane), A1 takes 1.5 seconds to complete a move down the lane for a lay-up. It's all good, and A1 is in lane continuously for about 10 seconds.

I forgot to add, A is the visiting team and the home crowd is ecstatic over the no-call on the 3 seconds and eagerly relays its heartfelt thanks
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Old Fri Nov 07, 2003, 03:14pm
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Quote:
Originally posted by Hawks Coach
To summarize the rule for ellewis:
Ball must be inbounds, controlled by a member of the offensive team in the front court (control being defined as a catch or the start of a dribble). Mere release of the inbounds pass doesn't start the count, touching of the ball without control doesn't start the count, and controlling the ball in he back court doesn't start the count.

If you really like the folks that yell for three seconds, try this one. A1 in lane, A2 inbounding, A2 releases ball at 4.9 seconds of 5 second count on a high lob beyond the top of the key, 1 second later A3 catches just inside the front court, 2.5 seconds later A3 passes to A1 (still in the lane), A1 takes 1.5 seconds to complete a move down the lane for a lay-up. It's all good, and A1 is in lane continuously for about 10 seconds.

I forgot to add, A is the visiting team and the home crowd is ecstatic over the no-call on the 3 seconds and eagerly relays its heartfelt thanks
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Old Fri Nov 07, 2003, 03:32pm
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controlled by a member of the offensive team in the front court
Just a nit, Coach, but you don't need player control in the frontcourt for the 3-second count to begin. You only need team control. You need player control at some point, somewhere, in order to establish team control. But if the ball is controlled by A1 in A's backcourt and then is fumbled or batted into A's frontcourt, the official technically should begin a 3-second count if any member of Team A is in the lane.
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Old Fri Nov 07, 2003, 03:32pm
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Thanks rainmaker

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