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Another LA study guide question. A fumble and a muff are methods of losing player control. True or false. I think the fumble is cut and dried, but I have yet to find the exact definition of a muff. My understanding is that this is a failure to catch the ball cleanly, so my first thought was that on a muff this player never had control. However it was suggested that this could apply to a player who was catching the ball to end a dribble, in which case it would end player control. The way I see it this has no bearing anywhere except on the test, but this is true of many other questions as well. I entertain opinions on this subject, and hopefully some solid documentation that we have overlooked.
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I think the dribble issue is best described as an "interrupted dribble", not as a "muff", but I agree the term isn't defined, so the "correct" answer will depend on the efinition used by test maker. |
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You are right on definitions.
SECTION 21 FUMBLE A fumble is the accidental loss of player control when the ball unintentionally drops or slips from a playerÂ’s grasp. No rulebook definition of muff, but it seems like the same thing to me. Bob, I don't think that a fumble or muff is an interrrupted dribble. A fumble that gets away from the dribbler could have all of the same rules aplied to it, with the exception that a fumble on a dribble pick-up cannot be followed by more dribbling. And I think a muff is a failure to catch a ball cleanly, although there is no basis for my opinion! |
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Are you sure you're using a study guide for basketball? When used together, "fumble" and "muff" are football terms, and are used to decide what happens on a dropped punt or kickoff.
BTW - what's the "LA Study Guide" anyway?
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Casebook play 9.1SIT= "A1, at the free throw line to attempt a free throw (a) muffs the ball from an official and it rolls forward; or (b)accidentally drops the ball before the throwing notion is started." Sounds like (a) is a muff and (b) is a fumble. |
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Looks like "muff" and "fumble" may be interchangeable in the NFHS world. |
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I just saw that . . . I can't remember
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Actually, your language could apply to a fumble or an interrupted dribble, two separate ways you can unintentionally lose control of the basketball. The fumble definition refers to grasp, i.e., two hands on ball.
I agree that "muff" as used in case book seems to be a loose way of saying fumble -- essentially an undefined term replacing a defined term. Bad thing to do in the rules. If muff has a distinct meaning, define it. If not, use fumble for consistency. |
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Fumble implies having had the ball. Muff implies touching, but never having had the ball. mick |
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