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That's a great clip. Don't know that I've seen that before.
I dug up the game and watched a little more. The coach is definitely an *******. That much is obvious, so I definitely wouldn't rule out intent here, as he clearly is all prepped to play the "Who me?" defense. He even has his hands in the air in the "Ladies and gentlemen, I am not a criminal" pose on the ensuing inbounds out of the timeout, as the official is simply trying to get him to move away from the inbounds spot. Whether we like it or not, many throw-ins take place IN the coaching box. Hell, one of the four designated frontcourt throw-in spots IS the coaching box -- which happened on successive plays here. So whether he's properly in the box is not really relevant here. If the throw-in is in the box too, then the coach had better relocate. The coach is also eager to make a meal out of the spot on the second throw-in (not in the clip), desperate for the second throw-in to be on the endline. And the official does a great job, again, seemingly patiently explaining the spot logic to the coach, who just won't stop and wants no part of it. He is clearly trying to play the "I'm just a zany and passionate coach" character and using it as a veil to be an irritant. Can you tell I'm not a fan of the 15 seconds I've seen from him? Back to your questions: If I observed this, I would rule it OOB on Black because the coach touched it. White bears no responsibility for a member of opposing bench personnel touching the ball. So we'll have another throw-in at the same spot. At which point I would kindly warn the coach not to be anywhere in the area code of the throw-in, as there can be no possibility of this happening again. And then we're going technicals after that if he refuses to comply or somehow manages to do this again. I'm not even bothering with the rules book on this one. This is Trial Law. |
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From your descriptions I believed this coach was a supreme jerk trying to interfere with the players. But then on watching the clip I saw that what he is is someone treating the players like morons, showing them, "Do like this! And keep doing like this!" and was not facing the thrower-in. Nevertheless, it seems his team may have gained an advantage by his actions, and officials should've done something in advance to give the thrower-in space from him. He could've taken a giant step backward and still been able to do his jumping jacks gesture without being in the way of the throw. But if no official made him do it, I don't like the presumption that he should've known better. If the touch was seen, inasmuch as basketball doesn't allow advantage play in general, how can you not stop play?
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Whack!
A) I would have instructed B-HC to sit down before Administering the Throw-in.
B) B-HC's actions in Team B's Coaching Box after W00 received the Ball for the Throw-in B-HC should have been Whacked! But, lets look at this Play: 1a) I am going to make an educated assumption that this is a Three-Person Officiating Crew. 1b) Based upon the educated assumption that I made in (1a) the C and T are grossly out of position for this Throw-in. 2a) The C should have been positioned at the Division Line so as to be able to look through the 'stack'. 2b) The T should have been Out-of-Bounds along the Sideline, thereby insuring that B-HC would have had his tuchus firmly seated on Team B's Bench, before Administering the Ball to W00. 3a) Once the Ball had been Inbounded by W00, the T was in a perfect position to see the Pushing foul by B1 against W27. I am gobsmacked ( ), that instead of charging B1 with the Pushing Foul for pushing W27 Out-of-Bounds and awarding W27 2 FTAs, the T incorrectly Ruled a 'force out' (which the NBA did away with at least 45 if not 50 years ago, ) and gave the Ball to Team W for a Designated Spot Throw-in on its Endline nearest where W27 was pushed Out-of-Bounds.3b) And during the Throw-in the C stood like a statue during the entire Play, .Esteemed Forum Member Daryl H. Long and I had this near exact Situation in a YBOA Girls' National Championship elimination game in the early 2000s which I know that I have described in previous threads in the Forum over the decades, .MTD, Sr.
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19th, 20th, 21st ...
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No! Centuries? Yes!
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Does a coach's box in basketball extend indefinitely "away" as in baseball? |
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Robert Goodwin: It is not the 'coach's box'. It is the Coaching Box. One will not see a 'coach's box' mentioned in the Rules but one will see the Coaching Box defined in the Rules. The Coaching Box is to be used by a HC to: i) coach his/her Team (primary purpose), ii) Request a TO, iii) make a CE request, iv) make an AP Arrow correction request, or v) make a Throw-in correction request. The Coaching Box is not to be used to interfere with an Opponent's Throw-in. MTD, Sr.
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