Experimental thirty second substitution rule.,

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. · #1 (**permalink**) Tue Oct 28, 2003, 01:05pm

Can someone please tell which state, Indiana or Illinois, is not using the thirty second rule for substitutions for disqualification? Is the rule is only for players that have become disqualified (five fouls or flagrant foul) or does it also apply to players that are injured (blood rule included) and players that have been discovered playing while wearing jewelry or other illegal equipment?

Indy_Ref · #2 (**permalink**) Tue Oct 28, 2003, 01:21pm

We are abiding buy the rule...except there will be NO horn after the 30 seconds, only one after 20.

JRutledge · #3 (**permalink**) Tue Oct 28, 2003, 01:31pm

We are using the "rulebook way" this year. I guess you can only have an experiemental rule for so many years and we hit the limit. I really wish they would use the rule, because it made life so much easier. I was at first against this rule (experimental), but you would be surprised how much coaches did not waste time and make a substitution. Now we go back to the same dance and pony show that will happen during the 30 seconds to replace a DQ'd player.

Peace

mick · #4 (**permalink**) Tue Oct 28, 2003, 01:36pm

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I was at first against this rule (experimental), but you would be surprised how much coaches did not waste time and make a substitution. Now we go back to the same dance and pony show that will happen during the 30 seconds to replace a DQ'd player.

Peace

Yes,Rut; a monster was created!

4 times this year the coach spent all 30 seconds replacing a player. I do not remember this happening before the clarification.

Oh, well, at least they're reading some selections in the book.

mick

rainmaker · #5 (**permalink**) Tue Oct 28, 2003, 01:56pm

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Oh, well, at least they're reading some selections in the book.

I don't know if this is good, mick. "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing," remember.

mick · #6 (**permalink**) Tue Oct 28, 2003, 02:00pm

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Oh, well, at least they're reading some selections in the book.

I don't know if this is good, mick. "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing," remember.

A little knowledge is also a 'start'.

rainmaker · #7 (**permalink**) Tue Oct 28, 2003, 02:06pm

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Originally posted by mick

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Originally posted by mick
Oh, well, at least they're reading some selections in the book.

I don't know if this is good, mick. "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing," remember.

A little knowledge is also a 'start'.

Man, you are right up there with Alexander Pope! Do you have a book coming out anytime soon?

mick · #8 (**permalink**) Tue Oct 28, 2003, 02:21pm

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Man, you are right up there with Alexander Pope! Do you have a book coming out anytime soon?

Uh, don't think so Jewel, ...left-handed, ya know.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. · #9 (**permalink**) Tue Oct 28, 2003, 11:39pm

Thank you ladies and germs (I mean gentlemen) for your prompt responses.

MTD, Sr.

mick · #10 (**permalink**) Wed Oct 29, 2003, 07:13am

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Thank you ladies and germs (I mean gentlemen) for your prompt responses.

MTD, Sr.

Germs ???

oatmealqueen · #11 (**permalink**) Wed Oct 29, 2003, 08:24pm

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Originally posted by mick

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Originally posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.
Thank you ladies and germs (I mean gentlemen) for your prompt responses.

MTD, Sr.

Germs ???

Mick, I believe that some golden age TV show host (like Milton Berle, or Sid Caeser) used to start his monologue by saying "Hello ladies and germs".
Can't remember who, however.

Jurassic Referee · #12 (**permalink**) Wed Oct 29, 2003, 08:35pm

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Mick, I believe that some golden age TV show host (like Milton Berle, or Sid Caeser) used to start his monologue by saying "Hello ladies and germs".
Can't remember who, however.
[/B][/QUOTE]'Twas Uncle Milty!

mick · #13 (**permalink**) Wed Oct 29, 2003, 08:39pm

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Originally posted by oatmealqueen

Mick, I believe that some golden age TV show host (like Milton Berle, or Sid Caeser) used to start his monologue by saying "Hello ladies and germs".
Can't remember who, however.
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'Twas Uncle Milty! [/B][/QUOTE]

Thanks Ms Referee and Mr. Birthday,
I remember now. I did hear it on TV.
1955????
It used to be humor.

rainmaker · #14 (**permalink**) Thu Oct 30, 2003, 01:03am

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Originally posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.
Can someone please tell which state, Indiana or Illinois, is not using the thirty second rule for substitutions for disqualification? Is the rule is only for players that have become disqualified (five fouls or flagrant foul) or does it also apply to players that are injured (blood rule included) and players that have been discovered playing while wearing jewelry or other illegal equipment?

Okay, I'm lost. What are we discussing here?

Jurassic Referee · #15 (**permalink**) Thu Oct 30, 2003, 03:00am

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Originally posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.
Can someone please tell which state, Indiana or Illinois, is not using the thirty second rule for substitutions for disqualification? Is the rule is only for players that have become disqualified (five fouls or flagrant foul) or does it also apply to players that are injured (blood rule included) and players that have been discovered playing while wearing jewelry or other illegal equipment?

Okay, I'm lost. What are we discussing here?

Last year, Illinois used an experimental NFHS rule that basically said that if coaches had to substitute for disqualified players, they had to make that substitution immediately, and did not get 30 seconds to do so. Mark was wondering if the "immediate - no 30 seconds to substitute" rule also applied to players that were directed by an official to leave the game because of injury or wearing jewelry. Mark's question remained unanswered because some nameless miscreant got the thread off-track by making an "Alexander Pope" reference. Maybe someone from Illinois can finish answering the question for Mark.