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Old Fri Oct 31, 2003, 01:34pm
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funny story from two years ago here in Texas. A game I was working, we had a 30 second substitution situation and after 20 a horn sounded. Not know that it was a warning horn, the my partner proceded to call a technical foul. Then the timer corrected the official. Substitute came immediatly and all was well. Now it is in the rule book, hopefully no more embarrasing false technical fouls.
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Old Sun Nov 02, 2003, 04:08pm
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Can someone please tell which state, Indiana or Illinois, is not using the thirty second rule for substitutions for disqualification? Is the rule is only for players that have become disqualified (five fouls or flagrant foul) or does it also apply to players that are injured (blood rule included) and players that have been discovered playing while wearing jewelry or other illegal equipment?
Okay, I'm lost. What are we discussing here?

Last year, Illinois used an experimental NFHS rule that basically said that if coaches had to substitute for disqualified players, they had to make that substitution immediately, and did not get 30 seconds to do so. Mark was wondering if the "immediate - no 30 seconds to substitute" rule also applied to players that were directed by an official to leave the game because of injury or wearing jewelry. Mark's question remained unanswered because some nameless miscreant got the thread off-track by making an "Alexander Pope" reference. Maybe someone from Illinois can finish answering the question for Mark.

Thank you Jurassic Referee.
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Old Sun Nov 02, 2003, 04:13pm
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Heywood, Jr., or Heywood, Sr.?
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Old Sun Nov 02, 2003, 09:48pm
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Lightbulb Yes, it applied there too.

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Last year, Illinois used an experimental NFHS rule that basically said that if coaches had to substitute for disqualified players, they had to make that substitution immediately, and did not get 30 seconds to do so. Mark was wondering if the "immediate - no 30 seconds to substitute" rule also applied to players that were directed by an official to leave the game because of injury or wearing jewelry. Mark's question remained unanswered because some nameless miscreant got the thread off-track by making an "Alexander Pope" reference. Maybe someone from Illinois can finish answering the question for Mark.

It applied to all situations that the 30 seconds would be used for a substitutions under the rules. So yes, it did apply to the injured player or player with jewelry.

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Old Mon Nov 03, 2003, 09:29am
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Heywood, Jr., or Heywood, Sr.?
No idea, Mark. I didn't even know there were two of them.
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I had assumed that Dan would do a google search to clear this up, but since he didn't, I did. Apparently Heywood Hale Broun was neither Sr nor Jr. He was distinguished from his father (Heywood Broun) by his middle name, which also happened to be his mother's maiden name.

http://www.americansportscasters.com/broun.html

[Edited by ChuckElias on Nov 3rd, 2003 at 10:27 AM]
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