Need help with this one?

[bwburke94]

It's a technical foul, but it's also an intentional foul. This is the type of thing non-officials (myself included) can get confused on.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by bwburke94

It's a technical foul, but it's also an intentional foul. This is the type of thing non-officials (myself included) can get confused on.

It's an intentional TECHNICAL foul, not an intentional PERSONAL foul

[Valley Man]

Can I make this float?

Team Technical Foul (6 participating at a time)
Flagrant Intentional Foul (the ball is live/not dead)(contact that neutralizes obvious advantage)
Unsuccessful 3 point try

Shooter gets 3 shots (fouled in act of shooting)(flagrant/player disqualified)
Any eligible player 2 shots (team technical for 6 participating and discovered)
Ball nearest the spot of the intentional foul

We have to have adjudication that covers if the damn shot goes in!!

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Valley Man

Can we piece together this for a ruling?

Team Technical Foul (6 participating at a time)
Flagrant Personal Foul (the ball is live/not dead)
Unsuccessful 3 point try

Shooter gets 3 shots (fouled in act of shooting)(flagrant/player disqualified)
Any eligible player 2 shots (team technical for 6 participating and discovered)
Ball at division line

You might as well add:

Entering without reporting
Baiting and taunting
Standing at the team bench
Leaving the confines when a fight might break out (as it might, here)
Wearing an illegal uniform (if part of the warm up is still on)
On the coach for allowing a player to leave the bench for an unauthorized reason

Or, we could just follow the interp. Two Ts, 4 FTs.

[Valley Man]

I understand the interp for blocking the shot.

There is no penalty for fouling a 3 point shooter if we apply that interp to this.

Ball is gone and you score it if it goes (so ball is not dead)

But no penalty if it doesnt?

[bob jenkins]

4 FTs for a 3-point shot seems like a "penalty" to me.

[SNIPERBBB]

Originally Posted by Valley Man

I understand the interp for blocking the shot.

There is no penalty for fouling a 3 point shooter if we apply that interp to this.

Ball is gone and you score it if it goes (so ball is not dead)

But no penalty if it doesnt?

Only way you can get to the "foul" is if the player was on court the whole time. You can't with a straight face say that a player you just watched come off the bench was an extra participant you didnt catch before resuming play at the last dead ball.

Offended team ought to be happy with the 4 FT's and the ball, assuming nobody retaliates against the player that came off the bench.