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Old Sat Feb 17, 2024, 01:46pm
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Some people like football / soccer rules that allow their school colors to show more at home, vs. away. I'm sure we'll see baseball / softball with the same debate.
I cannot remember, but does baseball and softball even have a color restriction? Meaning does the home team have to wear a certain type of jersey (like white) and the visiting team has to wear something else? I do not remember this being a debate, but it has been so long since I stopped working baseball, I just did not remember. You see all kinds of colors at other levels.

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Old Sun Feb 18, 2024, 01:26am
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I cannot remember, but does baseball and softball even have a color restriction? Meaning does the home team have to wear a certain type of jersey (like white) and the visiting team has to wear something else? I do not remember this being a debate, but it has been so long since I stopped working baseball, I just did not remember. You see all kinds of colors at other levels.

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NFHS in softball just says the team's uniforms must be the same color and style. No such rule regarding home visiting teams wearing dark or light colors. We generally arent having to make judgements where having opposing colored uniforms would help us.
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Old Sun Feb 18, 2024, 08:24am
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MLB *traditionally* had the home team wear white, because it was hard for the V team to get the laundry done and the darker uniforms would not show as much dirt. That tradition has largely gone away.

Nos specific rule exists in FED, NCAA or MLB baseball.

Or, any volleyball rule with which I am familiar.

Or, it would seem, tennis or track or golf....
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Old Sun Feb 18, 2024, 06:28pm
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MLB *traditionally* had the home team wear white, because it was hard for the V team to get the laundry done and the darker uniforms would not show as much dirt. That tradition has largely gone away.

Nos specific rule exists in FED, NCAA or MLB baseball.

Or, any volleyball rule with which I am familiar.

Or, it would seem, tennis or track or golf....
And all those sports do not have constant contact like basketball or football which those sports have. I wonder if lacross and hockey have color rules. I am pretty sure soccer does as well.

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And all those sports do not have constant contact like basketball or football which those sports have. I wonder if lacross and hockey have color rules. I am pretty sure soccer does as well.

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NFHS Hockey: the rule specifies "white-/light-colored" jerseys for the home team.

2.1.2 SITUATION B: The home team's jerseys are light blue and the visiting team's jerseys are dark blue. RULING: As long as the officials can readily differentiate players of opposing teams, this is permissible. The home team should preferably wear white jerseys, but light non-white colors are permitted.


NFHS Soccer: solid white jerseys for the visiting and dark jerseys (dark is defined as any color which contrasts with white) for the home team.


NFHS Lacrosse: Jerseys shall be of contrasting colors for opposing teams. The home team shall wear light jerseys and the visiting team shall wear its dark-color jerseys. The visiting team is responsible for avoidance of similarity of colors, but, if there is doubt, the referee may require the home team to change jerseys.

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A lot of these proposed rule changes seem like they are changes for the sake of change and to justify having an annual meeting.


I'm definitely not in favor of additional changes to the team foul rule. I like it as is.



About the only changes I favor are:
  • All frontcourt throw-ins go to one of the four magic spots.
  • Using the three-point arc instead of the "rocket ship" to determine endline vs. sideline throw-ins.
  • Adding a flop warning (if that's what the proposed penalty would be).
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A lot of these proposed rule changes seem like they are changes for the sake of change and to justify having an annual meeting.


I'm definitely not in favor of additional changes to the team foul rule. I like it as is.



About the only changes I favor are:
  • All frontcourt throw-ins go to one of the four magic spots.
  • Using the three-point arc instead of the "rocket ship" to determine endline vs. sideline throw-ins.
  • Adding a flop warning (if that's what the proposed penalty would be).
For the last few years when I've filled out the questionnaire I've asked if not begged for a flop warning.
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Old Thu Feb 29, 2024, 01:56pm
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For the last few years when I've filled out the questionnaire I've asked if not begged for a flop warning.
I'm first curious how a "flop violation", or even a "formal flop warning" would be handled. Is it only a violation for offense players? If A1 is driving and B1 flops, do we stop play to call the violation and give the ball right back to... team A?

I'm also curious how much of a difference a "flop violation" would make. The number of times I've heard "I am NEVER going to call a flopping technical, it's way too risky" or "I've only ever seen it once... ONCE..." is a fairly substantial number and usually cited is the question of how obvious it was. In HS games, many times flopping comes with a disadvantage to a team anyway - one of their players is distracted trying to perform a bad acting job while game action continues around him/her. Most of the time, an obvious flop is already handled as a non-call. In a lot of cases, just ignoring the obvious flops is likely to have the most impact.

I guess it gives you another level of escalation if you need it between informal "hey, 23, don't stretch it" and the tech, but would it change any behavior? Have any cases where you'd use a flop violation or a "formal" flop warning that goes beyond an informal "knock it off"?

Would you use it for crowd control? I can't imagine it's any better to accuse a team of flopping as a way of keeping the crowd from having wild reactions to poor acting jobs?

What would make you more willing to administer flopping punishments? Video review proving it was a flop?

Is there any particular situation you would have used a violation or formal warning for flopping vs. today's options?
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Old Thu Feb 29, 2024, 11:05am
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I cannot remember, but does baseball and softball even have a color restriction? Meaning does the home team have to wear a certain type of jersey (like white) and the visiting team has to wear something else? I do not remember this being a debate, but it has been so long since I stopped working baseball, I just did not remember. You see all kinds of colors at other levels.

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When I played baseball in high school 20 years ago, we got one jersey and one pair of pants. Would have loved to have home and away jerseys though
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